British Steel
British Steel in name only, but should we the taxpayer be handing over even more money to the likes of Greybull Capitial?
Desperately sorry for the many that will lose jobs and fully aware the defence and security should we have to import steel, but what choice is there other than nationalisation.
Should we let it die naturally, or give life support to a patient that is terminal.
The graph below from the above link makes stark viewing, and that's putting it mildly. 
@Minivanman wrote:
P.S. As for how big, in 2018 there were over 12m workers employed in their steel and coal industry.
At a very very rough estimate, then.... 12m workers in chinese steel AND coal industry... compared to less than probably a quarter of a million in the UK .. Wage costs in China must be so much lower too....
By the way... the UK produces more steel than Barbados, & Maruitius, put together... so .. we are doing really well, ..... ! 
China is also shedding workers by the thousands but comparisons do little for the fact that this place looks like it's going to go down that pan which is a crying shame. Having to import iron ore across thousands of miles cannot help either but, it's the way of the world I guess and although I hate to knock the old country, something has gone pear if not steel shaped that's for sure.
Onwards and upwards... to somewhere. 
I see in pmq's the PM has said that giving Brit Steel a loan would be illegal....A E.U. diktak??????
Correction to message 7 for fairness......The BBC says the loan would be illegal under EU law and also WTO rules
@Minivanman China is also shedding workers by the thousands but comparisons do little for the fact that this place looks like it's going to go down that pan which is a crying shame.
Talking to my work colleague (who has lived around these parts for many many years) he reckons the steel works has been living on borrowed time for years. No surprise really.
What would i miss? The red glow emanating (its more like a flame thrower) from one of the chimney stacks, usually first thing in the morning (really is a sight to see, even when you're miles away). Mind you the amount of black stuff that comes out of the chimneys is a sight to behold as well. Maybe I won't have to wash the car so much! One reason I have never thought about moving nearer work.
Interesting about the Chinese though. But given there is 1.5Billion of them, 12 million workers doesn't seem too gross. Not sure if we produce more per worker or they are more efficient.
@Minivanman wrote:
We lived in the shadow of Port Talbot for years and as a bit of a local historian at the time some of the images I found of how the area looked before industry blighted the landscape are truly amazing.
It still stinks around there of course and I for one would like to see that four mile long line of filth wiped off the map but there you go, it's been jobs before environment across most of south Wales for a couple of hundred years so I don't see it changing any time soon - or maybe not fingers crossed.
We stayed at a Hotel, there, for Christmas.... very nice...
