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Bring back the Penny Black ! !! NO CHANCE !..

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Bring back the Penny Black ! !! NO CHANCE !..

Royal Mail have announced that they are going to charge

 

FOURTEEN SHILLINGS,    :shocked:      to send a "First Class" letter..... From March this year..

 

and if you want a cheaper price,

Go for Second Class.....

 

at only  TWELVE SHILLINGS AND TUPPENCE ....   :shocked:

 

For the unknowing.... ... that`s 70pence `1st class.... and 61pence 2nd class

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/stamps-price-increase-first-class-royal-mail-a87920...

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Minivanman
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And we wonder why we never get birthday and christmas cards in a proper envelope and stamp on them!

Mind you, a few always come through unfranked and some you can steam off. :wink: 

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@shutter wrote:

 

 

 

and if you want a cheaper price,

Go for Second Class.....

 

at only  TWELVE SHILLINGS AND TUPPENCE ....   :shocked:

 

For the unknowing.... ... that`s 70pence `1st class.... and 61pence 2nd class

 

 


@shutter

By my reckoning that's nearer Twelve Shillings and Tuppence Ha'penny!

 

Edit: typo

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Re: Bring back the Penny Black ! !! NO CHANCE !..

@RobPN Always someone being picky ! !

Minivanman
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My brain cannot do the maths @shutter plus we had the decimal conversion but a £1 in 1840 when that stamp was first issued would be worth just over £95 today so what the actual real increase from a penny then to what you say it is now is beyond me but I'm guessing there might not be much difference.

http://www.in2013dollars.com/uk/inflation/1840?amount=1

 

 

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............and Royal Mail wonder why we are not sending as many letters as we once did:rolleyes:

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@Minivanman On that basis the stamp should cost about 42p (the website gives me £101 as the value today of £1 in 1840).

However if you look at earnings. In 1840 a building craftsman (bricklayers, carpenters, masons, smiths) earned 6s. 6d per week. So they could have sent 78 letters with a weeks wages. Today a tradesman gets about £12/hour or £480 for a forty hour week. That would allow a tradesman to send 685 letters (at 70p) with a weeks wages.

On an earnings basis a stamp should be £6.15.

Depends how you decide to do your sums! Lies, damn lies and statistics

http://victorian-era.org/the-victorian-era-wages-salary-earnings.html

https://www.tradesmansaver.co.uk/knowledgehub/what-are-tradesman-pay-rates

 

 

Minivanman
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Not just the cost of stamps though is it @artmo I mean, apart from cards on those special occasions (and even they can be designed and sent on line) who actually writes letters to each other these days. Like those telephone boxes, I'm just waiting for the day one of my grandchildren points at a postbox and say's "what's that Granddad?" and in much the same way we used to ask about those WW2 Pillboxes and such like.    

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@RobPN, It’s incredible that no one at Royal Mail realised there was a cap on the second class postage price.

Ofcom should be asking serious questions....

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And these prices are only for thin letters/cards.

 

It's not that long since (2005) that you could send anything weighing less than 2 oz with a normal stamp.  Now if it's over an inch thick it's a Small Parcel and costs 59s (£2.95).

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Yes, sending letters is very expensive;  over £18 for a full set, and double if capitals are included. It all needs a stop made, but sending punctuation raised cost even more.:crazy::2funny:

No one has to agree with my opinion, but in the time I have left a miracle would be nice.
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They are going to give the overcharged amount to charity; how is that helping the people who were overcharged?

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Hope no one from plusnet reads that.

It might give them ideas as they seem to be having a lot of problems refunding with their overcharging.

 

As for RM giving their ill gotten gains to charity I'll say to them the same as I do to the door knockers. I make my own arrangements for charity donations thank you.

 

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@Jonpe wrote:

They are going to give the overcharged amount to charity; how is that helping the people who were overcharged?


 

How else could they return the overcharge?

They are donating the overcharge to a charity for children.

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