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Luzern
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From tearlier posts on here I detect a burgeoning epidemic of severe plonkeritis. What the hell do jokes about flight safety warnings and drug side effect risks have to do with leaving the EU?:rolleyes: The two foregoing we know from experience are relatively safe to use, because airplanes and drugs have been well tested.

OTOH after four decades of EU membership we have embarked on leaving, and cannot know the effects of it, so to me it is idiotic not to make provisions for reasonable worst cases scenarios. Yet, when evidence of findings is leaked, our government tries  to rubbish its own work by claiming IIRC that it's out of date.

Yesterday, the comic-saga continued Andrea Leadsom claiming the release would scare the public. After their enforced release, we find the potential problems are very serious. Then today on the radio I hear claims that things have moved on since BoJo became PM. talk about Mr Miracle Worker.:huh:. 

Be disabused of any thought that I do not recognise, nor I do not wish to recognise that outcomes may be different either way.

Realism is better than economy with the actualité.

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So think that's 2-1 to Boris..
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@Luzern 

"What the hell do jokes about flight safety warnings and drug side effect risks have to do with leaving the EU"

Well that's a bit unfair mon ami - it simply followed on from earlier posts (yours included I think) where shortages of drugs were discussed because of Brexit and my own comparison with the Yellow Hammer document and project fear in relation to flying.

It all links up with Brexit - as does the world his wife, and Uncle Tom Cobley these days.

No?

OK then. :rolleyes: 

 

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Regarding the yellow hammer document, that is out of date anyway.

 

If anyone here has ever been in charge of doing risk assessments they will know that you have to cover the very worst of worse cases of a total plonker doing something they should not. including by-passing safety measures   This leads to graphic language like 'loss of limb',  'possible life changing injuries' etc.  But we all know in the real world most people are pretty savvy and anyone that isn't is subject to 'the Darwin effect' to keep the gene pool healthy...

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Probably right there @wotsup and not far removed from buying a new car from the garage only for it to become second hand the moment you drive it away. 

Nothing to do with Brexit of course. :wink:

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@Leapy 

Blimey, how did you get away with using the word fags?

Must just be a ban on using the singular... or something like that. 

 

As for "Freedom without Socialism..." -  that was definitely Michael Bublé. 

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John Lewis has posted their first ever half yearly loss of £26m. The chairman has listed a few factors that contributed to the loss but squarely points to a no-deal Brexit as a major factor.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49672393

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taken with a huge pinch of salt.
Do they ask all the customers why they aren't buying?

Also the waitrose arm posted a healthy £110 million profit or is the populous stock piling on the back of brexit fear???

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@dvorak Maybe that should be 3-1 as 3 out of 4 courts have ruled in favour of the government:smiley:

 

Also noticed (unless I missed it) that the BBC lunchtime news never mentioned the NI court result!!!!:rolleyes:

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@artmo 

Slight misreading there I think.

From that report what John Lewis said was it has fallen to a half-year loss and says a no-deal Brexit will have a "significant" impact, not that it had had a significant impact. 

And how do they know? Crystal balls obvioulsy.

So nothing squarely about that from the way I'm reading it, but then what a cop out, what an excuse when things do go wrong and how typical now of the BBC to spin it out. 

The Guardian newspaper as we all know is Bremainer to it's core, but the BBC is now rotten to it's core where Brexit is concerned.    

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@artmo wrote:

John Lewis has posted their first ever half yearly loss of £26m. The chairman has listed a few factors that contributed to the loss but squarely points to a no-deal Brexit as a major factor.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49672393

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So unemployment at less than 4%, vacancies up, economy continues to do better than predicted and John Lewis says Brexit is to blame.  Businesses can deal with certainty,  bad or good,  but what they cannot deal with is uncertainty - and that is what the remainiacs have inflicted on this country with their tantrums.  As for the BBC they are no longer a credible source of unbiased news ( if they ever were ) and the Guardian, well words fail me....... 

 

Merkel made a telling remark recently,  outside the EU the UK will be a competing economy on the edge of Europe - they are frit to have us outside their jurisdiction because it will show the Eurozone and EU as the uncompetitive protectionist economic cesspits that they are in stark highlight...

https://www.politico.eu/article/uk-to-become-economic-competitor-after-brexit-merkel-warns/

 

And then this,  which truly shows the democratic nature of the EU appointments process at it very best ...

https://unherd.com/2019/09/inside-the-rotten-heart-of-the-eu/

 

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@dvorak wrote:

taken with a huge pinch of salt.
Do they ask all the customers why they aren't buying?

Also the waitrose arm posted a healthy £110 million profit or is the populous stock piling on the back of brexit fear???


Charlie Mayfield is one of the most respected people in British retail so I am prepared to listen to his opinion. He will have had more info on which to base his comment than those on this forum.

"Brexit continues to weigh on consumer sentiment at a crucial time for the sector as we enter the peak trading period."

Their food side actually dipped slightly and this was despite a very healthy increase in online sales.

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If your comments are aimed at those here who disagree with what you read and those you quote @artmo - are we not only doing the same thing as yourself.

Nobody here is claiming to be an expert on this subject from what I can see, only giving an opinion.

Do you know this guy Mayfield personally?

As for "Brexit continues to weigh on consumer sentiment at a crucial time for the sector as we enter the peak trading period." - well that's not rocket science is it and moreover, none of us needs an expert to tell us what we already know.  

 

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Yesterday, the comic-saga continued Andrea Leadsom claiming the release would scare the public. After their enforced release, we find the potential problems are very serious. Then today on the radio I hear claims that things have moved on since BoJo became PM. talk about Mr Miracle Worker.:huh:. 

 

 


 

@Luzern  And to top it off, after we are told that things have moved on, we are also told that Gove is very busy with the information campaign which will start very soon, to warn the public of what needs to be done if we do leave without a deal. 

If that doesn't scare the horses it won't be accurate. Talk about hissups in breweries!