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Ban on filament light bulbs, forgetting something??

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Ban on filament light bulbs, forgetting something??

I watched the report on Sky News today about how from Tuesday there will be a ban on the import of standard filiment lightbulbs in an attempt to save the planet.
The energy savers are fine and currently cost the same in my local Asda as standard bulbs cost in my local Spar. I fitted them throughout the entire house several years ago.
I only have one standard filiment bulb in the house for one good reason, it is on a dimmer. This is the point that the report missed. Are we all supposed to go and replace all of our dimmers?
I have tried out of curiosity and the standard energy savers really don't work well with dimmers
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Re: Ban on filiment lightbulbs, forgetting something??

I read that the energy savers won't work at all with dimmers.  At least you can buy energy savers that look more like a conventional bulb and will fit into most sockets.
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Re: Ban on filiment lightbulbs, forgetting something??

They do work when the dimmer is turned up full but will not dim, instead they will start to flicker when the knob is turned down. They will then give a pop and be ready for the bin, sometimes knocking off the trip switch in the process.
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Re: Ban on filiment lightbulbs, forgetting something??

Our Local County Advisor has been on the Radio several times and has been challenged on this point, they claim that you can get the new types of buld that can be dimmed, they also said that they were available in a hardware store that has branches in Sommerfields, sorry cant remember the name.  But I have tried lots of places and have not been able to find them.
I have noticed that a lot of shops are selling off the old type of bulb at silly prices, why not stock up  Crazy
I have a bulb wholesaler lives across the road from me, will go and ask him
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Re: Ban on filiment lightbulbs, forgetting something??

I used to have an automatic porch light beside the front door with a small filament bulb installed. It switched itself on at dusk and off at dawn.
A few months ago I changed the bulb for a low energy one and the light stopped being automatic.
I had to switch it on at dusk and off in the morning.
I called in B & Q and spotted an automatic porch light with an energy saving bulb which I duly purchased and fitted.
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Re: Ban on filiment lightbulbs, forgetting something??

There is energy saver bulbs available that can be dimmed but they are not the standard low cost fluorescent type that are widely available. They are LED. Not sure about the price, will have a look.
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Re: Ban on filiment lightbulbs, forgetting something??

Took a quick look and found fluorescent bulbs that CAN be dimmed, interesting but expensive. http://www.reuk.co.uk/Dimmable-Energy-Saving-Lightbulbs.htm
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Re: Ban on filiment lightbulbs, forgetting something??

I.ve listened to this story with interest. lots of the anti brigade seem to base their knowledge on the cheapo units sold in supermarkets a couple of years ago.
I replaced all my bulbs with later units - and there are units equivalent to the 100 W tungsten - and they are very bright and a pleasant colour of light.
Yes they take a minute or two to reach full brightness but I can live with that that.
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Re: Ban on filiment lightbulbs, forgetting something??

Megaman make two dimmable types that I'm aware of, both 11W. One type is dimmed with an ordinary light switch, AFAIK by switching on/off in a certain sequence to achiece the desired brightness -
http://www.lamps2udirect.com/pages/browse-More-Lamps2udirect.php/Energy-Saving-Light-Bulbs/Megaman-D...
The other type use a normal dimmer switch -
http://www.lightbulbs-direct.com/product/2614/megaman-gls-dimmerable-11w-b22d-bc-warm-white/
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Re: Ban on filiment lightbulbs, forgetting something??

they come at a price dont they  no far off £12
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Re: Ban on filiment lightbulbs, forgetting something??

Would be much cheaper just to buy normal light switches to replace the dimmers!
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Re: Ban on filiment lightbulbs, forgetting something??

Ah yes, the price, forgot to mention that! Also, haven't seen them in any shops. I wouldn't expect to locally, but I saw none in Aberdeen's John Lewis either. Their prices generally for standard low energy bulbs were excellent though.
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Re: Ban on filiment lightbulbs, forgetting something??

The standard low energy bulbs are available in places like Asda for less than £1 but retailers really need to get the ball rolling on these dimmable ones now that we are going to need them. The inevitable demand will hopefully drive the price down and the availability up.
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Re: Ban on filiment lightbulbs, forgetting something??

Of course - but the specialised lighting shops have a much wider range of the lights - different colour temperatures , different shapes and fittings etc., albeit at a higher price - but as you say these prices should quickly drop: just like any new product introduction.
Having said that - I have two outside lights over the doors that used an early form of this technology and they are 15 years old and still going strong.
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Re: Ban on filiment lightbulbs, forgetting something??

Unfortunately the switching on, and off of these lamps serves only to shorten their lifespan, so they still aren't appropriate for things like security lights, or bathroom/toilet light fittings.
Fine for rooms where you turn on the light and leave it on for a while, but nor great for *every* situation.
We currently have around 75% of our light fittings on CFLs, everywhere that it's practical to do so. Smiley