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In the House of Commons a director of Seaborne Freight was said to owe HMRC £500,000 and in April 2018 the company advised investors it had an agreement to operate a ferry service.

The Mayor of Ostend says it's impossible to operate a ferry service by 29 March, but Chris Grayling seems to think it is.

Throughout the debate Grayling stressed the company would only be paid if a service was provided but he was unable to say which boat or boats the start up company had leased. Mr Grayling was not asked what the company gets everything in place but its services are no longer required due to a deal being struck?  

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Meanwhile, yesterday a government minister talked on TV of possibly extending Article 50, while today the Brexit Minister denied he had been in tentative talks with EU Officials to look at extending Article 50.

In cabinet Amber Rudd told colleagues that history will take "a dim view" of ministers if the UK leaves the EU without an agreement and the UK would be less safe.

 While at the despatch box Business Secretary Greg Clark has also told MPs a no-deal exit in March "should not be contemplated".

Oooh errr.

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In cabinet Amber Rudd told colleagues that history will take "a dim view" of ministers if the UK leaves the EU without an agreement and the UK would be less safe.



Surely that should be "a dimmer view", if that is possible?

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The government is certainly looking dumber & dumber with Eton College government mouthpiece *Roderick "Rory" Stewart appearing on every news channel saying contradicting things.

The Prime Minister & Rory had been saying the current deal with the EU is the best & only deal but on Newsnight Rory was saying if they could get an agreement with MPs the government would be able to get the EU to revise the current deal.

Looks like Number 10 had a supper meeting at which it was decided how best to spin the lost vote in Parliament.  

 

(*In March 2017 whilst Rory was live on TV stoutly defending a government tax policy, the government did an U-Turn and Rory did an instant 180 degree flip in his argument.)

 

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It was funny to watch ardent pro Brexit MPs who fought for Taking Back Control, sovereignty etc getting their knickers in a twist over Bercow's decision to allow an amendment to a government motion to be voted on by our elected representatives.

In the next few days will Theresa May be flying off to Brussels and returning waving a piece of paper?

  

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@christmas wrote:

flying off to Brussels and returning waving a piece of paper?


Are you suggesting Brussels is staffed by lying Nazis consumed by the desire to dominant Europe.

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@billnotben wrote:

Are you suggesting Brussels is staffed by lying Nazis consumed by the desire to dominant Europe.


 

 

Nein.

Unless you mean Nigel Farage who toured Europe to have meetings with his far right friends.

You may recall in December 2017 our glorious leader Theresa May went to Brussel's to sign the draft agreement but having been torpedoed by the DUP who objected to the wording. Heavily wounded by the DUP Mrs May hastily retreated from Brussels to have a jaw jaw with Arlene Foster, and it was agreed to change one word (which to my mind had the same meaning as the one replace.

Undercover of darkness in the early hours Mrs May returned to Brussels with the revised document containing her words which was duly agreed and signed. I believe the document included the Irish backstop which the UK cabinet signed up to including Boris Johnson & David Davis, although former SAS TA Mr Davis did try to destroy the freshly signed draft agreement by suggesting it was not legally and could be ignored by the UK.

Similarly at this time it is/was Mrs May who sought to dictate to the EU words that would bring peace amongst her backbenchers and chime with their thinking, but it looks like she things she'll have more luck with Labour MPs.   

 

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Chris Grayling all at sea?

Answering questions this morning Mr Grayling refused to say whether he had been aware of the $1M owed by Seaborne Freight CEO, Ben Sharp, instead he made reference to due diligence having taken place by Deloitte's and other companies.

 

The accountancy firm Deloitte has taken the extraordinary step of apologising to the government and offering to stop bidding for Whitehall contracts for six months, after preparing an internal memo suggesting Downing Street had no plan for Brexit. 

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Three times a lady?

Open & Transparent Brexit Minister Chris Heaton-Harris refusing to answer question.

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Will Theresa May be able to keep her cabinet together with the feeling they are under siege or will some of her Ministers decide enough is enough?

Over the past few days the Prime Minister has talked of how bad a no deal would be, the worst outcome, but Gove & Fox have been going around effectively saying the opposite....the other week Liam Fox talked of the cabinet possibly not allowing the Withdrawal Bill being put to Parliament, well it was and tonight the Government lost massively.

I do not understand why Minister after Minister say from the vote they only know what MPs don't want, what have they been doing for 2 years...to be so out of touch with their colleagues?

I do wonder if Theresa May called a General Election in 2017 not to strengthen her position negotiating with the EU but to try and strengthen her position within her Conservative colleagues.

 

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You have to laugh Boris Johnson spend years going bananas and ridiculing what the EU Parliament debate & ruled on....

Meanwhile in the UK this week it's been announced people will likely be banned from lighting scented candles in their own homes and tomorrow Parliament will debate the height of letterboxes should be from the ground. 

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All the talk of IT Technology when it comes to Brexit why not showcase technology in Parliament with electronic voting, rather than taking an hour casting 4 votes.

Also, why not allow proxy voting instead of having to wheel ill or incapacitated MPs through the lobbies to vote?   

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Political correctness gone mad...Nigel Dodds of the DUP last night on Newsnight....

 

We will be supporting the government in the confidence motion and I think it will demonstrate to the Conservative party and all its MP’s just how important the confidence and supply arrangement actually is. This will be the first real test of where our support really matters.

What it really shows is when it comes to the crunch and the government’s survival is on the line the DUP will be able to keep the government in power.

The lesson out of that is this, along with the 118 Conservative MPs who voted against the government tonight, we’ve had a difference with the government we’ve expressed our division, unfotunately the Prime Minister put this to the vote knowing the combined forces of the opposition and many in her own party and ourselves where against it. That was the most ludicrous misjudgement I can imagine.

Yet Mr Dodds and his party will today vote they have confidence in someone who he says has shown the most ludicrous misjudgement imaginable.

And doesn't it demonstrate the whole referendum has not been about what's good for the UK or the British people, but arguments in one political party and clinging on to power no matter the damage they cause.

 

 

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And last night David Davis confirmed how bad a negotiator he truly is...he repeated the ridicules mantra that German Car manufacturers will start putting pressure on Merkel and the EU.

Why would they put at risk 90% of their market for the sake of UK manufactured Japanese cars (Nissan, Honda) and Indian owned Jaguar Land Rover, or American owned Ford? With UK manufactured cars out of the way or restricted in the EU, it will be seen as an opportunity by EU car manufacturers to fill the gap and face less competition.

 

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The next leader of the Conservative Party? ....Michael Gove speaking in April 2016

 

The day after we vote to leave we hold all the cards and we can choose the path we want.

.....no responsible government would hit the start button on a two-year legal process without preparing appropriately. Nor would it be in anyone's interest to hurry parliamentary processes. We can set the pace.

 

Ah yes those 58 detailed impact assessments prepared by David Davis before launching Article 50.