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One problem with bio-diesel and bio-petrol is that they rot in the tank if left too long. For example petrol doped with alcohol starts to go off after a month. Use bio-petrol that's been standing in a half full tank for several months, eg lawn mower over winter, and the engine can get gummed up.  For bio-diesel there are specialists who will "polish" your diesel to remove the bacterial film/algae that grows between the layer of water/diesel in your tank if it has been left standing for a while. The diesel problem occurs with installations such as standby generators. While it is still manufactured, it's quite difficult to buy fuel without the added bio content.

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I was watching a video on someone repairing a tesla somethingorother the other day and they rolled up to one of them "Supercharger" points, and they stated that the charger to do a fast-charge pumps out 200 amps at around 400 volts, that's about 80 kilowatts, now if half of car owners switched to electric, just imagine the demand on the grid when they all started fast-charging during the day, or even just normal 80-amp charging overnight... Shocked

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My favourite saying 'if its got t!t5, tyres or batteries its gonna give you problems;....

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@AlaricAdair It's a problem. I've had no end of trouble with petrol driven garden tools here. All down to the ethanol added. And that's even after emptying tanks and running equipment dry.

Not difficult to get non-bio fuel, but quite expensive!

There's a brand called "Aspen" I use in my tools. (No affiliation)

It's good, and the tools start straight off even after being left with fuel in.

But it's around 20 quid a gallon.

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@AlaricAdair wrote:

For example petrol doped with alcohol starts to go off after a month. Use bio-petrol that's been standing in a half full tank for several months, eg lawn mower over winter, and the engine can get gummed up.


 

Not necessarily gummed up, but water collecting in the carburettor due to the ethanol content causes corrosion of the bowl and jets, resulting in needing to be cleaned out due to flakes of rust and verdigris plugging things up, left longer and the carburettor is ruined...

 

You can use a fuel stabiliser though, which helps to keep the ethanol content from being hygroscopic (pulling moisture from the air forming water in the fuel), I've done this for the past few years and kept petrol for over a year and still been good...

 

There's also the act of "washing" the fuel, where you add an amount of it to a container, throw in a cup of water, shake the ever loving blazes out of it, leave it to settle for a day or two, and the ethanol bonds with the water and separates out, you then decant the petrol layer leaving the ethanol behind. The downside to this, well, they use the ethanol as an octane booster, so in a car, the fuel would be weaker, in garden equipment it's not so much of an issue if you can retune the carb's air-fuel ratio, but it's a faff, and having to de-ethanol the fuel, it can be messy...

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Anyone know if hydrogen cell cars are any nearer as at one time they were saying that they were the future? Huh

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@Minivanman wrote:

Well let's hope you are right and as I have said many times before I'd love to have an electric vehicle but the cost/lease of those batteries, the cost of the car itself of course and lack of charging points.

Great for the future when it will have to happen but sadly not in my time... and not on my pension. Smiley

 

There's plenty of charging points with more being installed all the time, even "Big Oil" are getting in on the act these days...

 

https://www.zap-map.com/live/

 

And the Nissan leaf?

Cost £32,000 plus battery lease, Charging time 30 minutes to a full day, Miles depending 168 to 240.

 


They start at about 28k and abandoned battery leasing (i think Renault still offer it as an option with the Zoe) and again the average journey is short, it's 11 miles in the UK IIRC.

 

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@TTman I don't know, they've sort of gone quiet about them. Compressed hydrogen is a bit of a faff to handle and compress and so on though, and of course can go bang if it leaks etc.

Mind you batteries are pretty nasty things if they go wrong as well.

There's a lot of energy stored in an EV battery.

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@DaveyH  just to backup what you said. Last week called at a Welcome Inn service station on the M5 and counted 20 tesla recharging points and two other makes. Only one was in use tho.Thumbs_Up

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"They" should install FTTP to all the houses in the country and at the same time provide roadside charging points for electric cars. Not everyone has the luxury of a garage/drive where they can park their car to charge it. I'm sure "we" wouldn't object to paying for this.

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Last time I was at Ikea, they had charging points there too (Ecotricity ones I think they were, but wasn't paying that much attention), but none were in use, I guess you can't really fit a couple Billy bookcases in the boot of the average EV, and a Tesla with a roof-rack would be an amusing sight I'm sure... Grin

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@Minesapint wrote:

 

Mind you batteries are pretty nasty things if they go wrong as well.

There's a lot of energy stored in an EV battery.


It is standard practice for emergency services to wear full respirator gear with air tanks when dealing with battery EV fires, the fumes from burning battery are so toxic that it does not take much to kill you,  progress eh........ and explosion is an ever present danger with energy stored.

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I still cant see electric vehicles catching on to any great degree as they currently are.

Buy a vehicle that doesn't have a power plant. They need a lot more plus points before I would even consider that.

We did have a way that worked. They were called trams and trolley buses.

Most battery powered devices have a shelf life dependent entirely on the life of the battery. On another thread we were pretty appalled at the prices of rechargeable vacuum cleaners. My old vacuum cleaner is approaching twenty years old, still works perfectly, and cost a tiny fraction of so called modern rechargeable ones. I really doubt that one of those would even last half of that.

Maybe we are heading towards a dystopian future where the workers are shipped around in grimy expensive buses while the elite glide by in their private electric vehicles on half empty roads. (like something out of UFO except they were turbine powered)

 

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@billnotben wrote:

My old vacuum cleaner is approaching twenty years old, still works perfectly, and cost a tiny fraction of so called modern rechargeable ones. I really doubt that one of those would even last half of that.


 

My oldest vacuum, about 50 years old (Kirby Dual Sanitronic 80), only downside is it's 120 volts, but works nice on a transformer, and more effectively than an EU-legistlated low-power vacuum, even though said vacuum is about 300 watts... Grin

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Well needs must for those charging points I guess as here in west Wales we do not need them and I know of only one, and that's in a Council run car park in Newcastle Emlyn. No doubt there are more but I've yet to spot them, but they why would I, and I only spotted that one because it looked so out of place - or if you want to sound posh, incongruous.

As for £28k @DaveyH well I guess at £4k less than the first one that came up from a search,  I''l just make my way down to the showroom t'morrow.... and press my nose up against the window. 

Not knocking them because as said I rather fancy one but much like Augustine of Hippo said, 'Da mihi castitatem et continentiam, sed noli modo.