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And they wonder why shops stay empty

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And they wonder why shops stay empty

http://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/9675133.Prime_site_empty_shop_highlights_challenges_facing_Bou...
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The shop closed last March and is still vacant despite being in a prime location on Old Christchurch Road.
Traders would have to pay £218,000 a year in rent and £90,684 business rates.
“You have still got to stock the shop and employ staff,” said Mr Parker.
“If you are a national multiple retailer you probably can’t make these figures stack up.”
Most retailers want 5,000 sq ft of floor space, ideally on the ground floor, said Mr Parker.
Bournemouth’s old shopping units are usually smaller and spread across two floors.
The former Dorothy Perkins has only 2,656 sq feet of floor space and only 1,000 sq ft is on the ground.
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Re: And they wonder why shops stay empty

What you need to do Oldjim, is open a specialist mug shop !
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Re: And they wonder why shops stay empty

Councils increase inner city parking fees resulting in less customers leading to shop closures.
Councils then increase city centre rents to compensate resulting in shop closures and a migration to out-of-town shopping centres with free parking.
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Re: And they wonder why shops stay empty

Well all the time the governments and councils keep seeing price increases as the way forward instead of properly handling their money then this country is only going to get worse.
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Re: And they wonder why shops stay empty

you should try Braintree and the Cons.
we have a lot of empty shops, and the wonderful plan?  shut the bus park terminus, Shut a central car park, demolish a well used community centre, given to the town by the Americans after the war,
Build a lot more shops, build a hotel - Why
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=braintree,+essex&ll=51.877716,0.554525&spn=0.001268,0.003117&oe=utf-...
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Re: And they wonder why shops stay empty

Stupid isn't it.
They claim they want things to flourish and then stamp out the possibility by taxing it all to death. This country has lost it.
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build a hotel - Why

I would have thought that was obvious. They have to have somewhere to house the EU migrants while their benefits cases are assessed. Wink
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Re: And they wonder why shops stay empty

Other costs not mentioned include shop-fittings, heating, lighting, insurance against customer injuries, shrinkage (cost of damaged and pilfered goods).
You can see the attractions of retailing online!
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Re: And they wonder why shops stay empty

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What you need to do Oldjim, is open a specialist mug shop !

Not even I'm plastering my mugs all over the place, and I've got a few of them !!  Grin Grin Grin
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Re: And they wonder why shops stay empty

An example why on line is winning.
A week ago I called in at my local tyre supplier inquiring about an 8" x 3.5" wheelbarrow tyre.
Response you don't want that it is too expensive you want an 8" x 100mm it is much cheaper and quoted £9 for a tyre and inner tube.
Not bad I thought so I went home to check if it would fit - Yup it would.
Went back today to buy it - £17 - but I was quoted £9 last week - well that is the price.
So I didn't buy it - just placed an order on Amazon £9.50 with free delivery.
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Re: And they wonder why shops stay empty

Local shops...
At least you can touch it and buy it, if they have it.
I've ordered several ( non essential) low cost electronic items off ebay recently, as I have done in the past.
All shipped from Hong Kong, different suppliers, not available UK, normally takes 14 days, after 31 days, I asked for and got instant refund.
Sussed out what is happening..
They don't bother shipping low value sales, claiming items are dispatched, and instant refund when chased.
Amazon is a personal favourite for many items, but watch out for yo-yo pricing.
At least delivery is within a day or two I find.
Availability and price nearly always better than local shops, large or small for non-food items
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My small town nearby, almost a very large village, at least has High Street parking for free 30+ minutes, and three supermarkets adjacent to town centre with ample free parking, all close enough to walk into town for local shops, we have a nice variety, award winning food shops being nearby to the Peak District with lots of farms.
Some excellent restaurants with free parking outside in the evenings.
Free parking is essential to the community, always very busy with pedestrians !
Several banks, always a good sign of a thriving community.
Shops that close down don't stay empty for long.
Many residents in the community have been born and bred here, everyone knows everyone else, which all helps, and customers support the local shops.
Just 25,000 of us live here.
I was an outsider until 15 years ago, when I chose to live here.
Accepted straight away, mostly because my wife was the main Pharmacist, and we soon got to know a lot of people.
It's a lovely place to live, views across open countryside, good local shops, and a High Street which is a main route for passing traffic.
A good healthy local economy is essential for good local shops.
Oh, and we have a train station with a direct line into Manchester, which is ridiculously cheap off peak, trains every 30 minutes for the occasional foray into the Big City.
Great for evenings out, Restaurants, Cinema, Theatre etc.
Rail travel is virtually free in the evenings.
It is NOT cheap during rush hours though !
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Re: And they wonder why shops stay empty

The trouble with online buying is the time for delivery and you can't inspect the item before purchase. Then if it's faulty you have the hassle of sending it back etc..
As much as I like online buying for some things, it's only non-essentials or specialist stuff that I can't get locally somewhere. An example being a specialist car tool that I wanted a couple of years back. Despite all the local tool shops I only found one place that could supply me this bit of kit and it wasn't very higly rated / strong. For £50 less I got one on ebay that was rated 4 times stronger and despite ordering at gone 4pm I was woken up the next morning at 7:30 for delivery of it  Shocked Fastest delivery I've ever had.
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Re: And they wonder why shops stay empty

I have had same day delivery once from Amazon for some AA battery boxes, UK supplier !
I have used that supplier again !
Several less than 24 hours delivery.
Some suppliers appear to have staff Sundays too.
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Re: And they wonder why shops stay empty

just found this article about the Braintree developement, the picture is the new Cheesy Cheesy hotel on the current bus park
The reference to £10 000 for window stickers - another crazy, they have bought Fablon type window stickers to make some empty shops look occupied
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Re: And they wonder why shops stay empty

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An example why on line is winning.
A week ago I called in at my local tyre supplier inquiring about an 8" x 3.5" wheelbarrow tyre.
Response you don't want that it is too expensive you want an 8" x 100mm it is much cheaper and quoted £9 for a tyre and inner tube.
Not bad I thought so I went home to check if it would fit - Yup it would.
Went back today to buy it - £17 - but I was quoted £9 last week - well that is the price.
So I didn't buy it - just placed an order on Amazon £9.50 with free delivery.

And here is another reason, I ordered some car tyres on the internet from a national company and it was cheaper to pay for them on line and then go to the companies local depot  to get them and have them fitted.
Same with a battery I ordered from Halfords, cheaper if you pay online then go to the local branch for it.