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nadger
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AV Poll

Just out of interest as there's been a good debate on the subject
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Re: AV Poll

My first choice was "No" but my second choice was "Yes" so if No doesn't get 50% of the vote will it go to a second round?  Crazy
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Re: AV Poll

That's a No from me.

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Re: AV Poll

And a Yes from me.
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I think AV would be a waste of time to be honest.
The current first past the post system is a shambles too. In my view whoever gets the most votes/seats wins - its as simple as that. Why on earth they have to con us with another complex voting system which relies on 2nd choice votes etc is beyond me. It's just another way of conning us so they can rig the vote legally.
Thats why i won't bother with voting for a system. I also won't vote for any of the parties at election time either.
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Re: AV Poll

Final day before actual vote - this poll result due late tomorrow afternoon.
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Re: AV Poll

I feel excluded from this poll, because I do not have a choice

my choice would have been "I`m not sure"  cos I`m not sure about  a yes vote, I`m not sure about a no vote, and I`m not sure if I`ll bother to vote either  Grin
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Re: AV Poll

I will be voting 'No'.  I see no advantage in AV.  It leads to indecisive government IMO.
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Quote from: shutter
I feel excluded from this poll, because I do not have a choice

I will be voting "No", SWMBO thinks she will vote "Yes".
I suggested (jokingly) we don't travel the 5 miles to the polling station as our votes would cancel each other out.
SWMBO put her foot down "You will vote, it is your right, don't throw that right away, even if you destroy your voting paper".
Sorry Shutter just read what you wrote, I paraphrase
Question:- Tomorrow why are we voting on introducing the AV system of voting to replace First past the Post, by using a First Past the Post system in favour to the AV system?
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[quote=artmo]It leads to indecisive government IMO.
So following that argument, if a party really wanted to be in power, then surely AV would be an incentive for parties to be more proactive in producing imaginative, positive and distinguishing manifestos, rather than the rather lame "we will do the opposite of them", or "we don't have a chance so we will say whatever we like" politics that we have at the moment.
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The one aspect of AV that I feel has not had enough attention is that it would allow voters the choice of candidates from the same party.
At the moment, if in a very safe Tory seat, if a Tory challenger to the sitting MP put himself forward there is a danger under FPTP that the Tory vote would be split and someone from another party would get in.
Under AV the Tory supporters would put one of their candidates first and the other second. One or other of the Tories would still win.
(I hasten to add the same would apply in a safe Labour seat if there was a Labour Trade Unionist candidate and a Labour candidate more from the Socialist wing of the party)
AV gives far more power to the voters - that's why many in the two main parties don't like it!
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Re: AV Poll

Voting yes, for two reasons:
1) It's important to me that we let the people in power that we aren't afraid of change and in fact want change to happen. I'm not sure whether AV will be better or not (suspect it will be from what I've seen) but it'd be better to make an effort to prove change is needed than to sit back and do nothing, because all that does is tell the people in charge that we're happy with how things are. I'm not happy with how things are.
2) The No to AV campaign has consisted of everything that's bad about politics - smears, fear tactics, and creative use of figures with no evidence to back them up. Also (and this may be a shallow argument but what the hell) the comedians and other assorted funny people that I follow on twitter because basically I think they're smart and have a sensible view of the world (admittedly that's because it's similar to mine, which won't convince anyone that doesn't see things like I do) are also for it, and describe it in ways that make me laugh.
Disclaimer - these are my own opinions and shouldn't reflect on anyone or anything else.
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TBH I'm still undecided I wanted to vote no but the way the campaign has been touted has put me off.
My original decision was reached on the basis that I believe AV may confuse people and dissuade the already apathetic from voting at all.
I think on the other hand change is needed but I've not reached that decision based on the fact that if we had have had this instead of FPTP  at the last general election the result would have been very different as I think some people have.
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Quote from: _Adam_Walker_
the way the campaign has been touted

Has been appalling all round.  Cry
I haven't heard a single sensible logical argument put forward on either side; just loads of obviously incorrect emotional claptrap.
What a waste of time and effort to do it at all, and an insult to the voters who deserve better.
I have made my own decision, based on my own logic, but that's between me and the ballot box.  Lips are sealed
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Quote from: Matt
1) It's important to me that we let the people in power that we aren't afraid of change and in fact want change to happen. I'm not sure whether AV will be better or not (suspect it will be from what I've seen) but it'd be better to make an effort to prove change is needed than to sit back and do nothing, because all that does is tell the people in charge that we're happy with how things are. I'm not happy with how things are.

The last time a government thought change was needed was with Rates. So they changed it to the Poll Tax which was very unpopular and after many protests it was changed to the Council tax which is an updated form of  Rates.
So perhaps we should be thinking not going to AV but staying with First pass the post but limiting the number of parties that can stand so the winner will have the majority of the votes.