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A mobile phone’s ability to receive a signal and other related items.

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A mobile phone’s ability to receive a signal and other related items.

First off this post is not related to Plusnet mobile and is why I’m posting here. Secondly, does the brand / cost of the phone relate in any way to the signal quality you get?

I’m asking as I made a post previously about a network dongle, and on doing the research it was cheaper (and more sensible) to buy a mobile phone, so I bought a Nokia 105 Single SIM for £12 and I got myself a 3 PAYG SIM. I based that on their signal map as it said 3G cover for my location was ‘Very Good Service” for both indoor and outdoor and I could even benefit from 4G Super-Voice as well (assuming I had a capable device).

However, I get no signal whatsoever. I had to drive 19 miles to get a signal to register the SIM! Having said that when I use the Support / Network and Coverage option on the Three website I’m told there’s an issue with the network in my area, which might explain everything of course.

But I also saw the same message 12 days ago when I ordered the SIM and assumed that this issue would be cleared by the time it arrived.

But can a mobile service really have an issue for that long?

Would getting a 'better' (i.e. non-budget) phone allow me to use a weak signal?

 

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Anonymous
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Re: A mobile phone’s ability to receive a signal and other related items.

Three sims will not work on a 2g phone... I believe the Nokia 105 is not 3G enabled, (I will check and post back) so your Three SIM will not work...

 

Edit: It looks like the 105 is GSM not 3G, so your three SIM will not work...

https://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_105_(2017)-8770.php

 

 

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Re: A mobile phone’s ability to receive a signal and other related items.

@Anonymous - ? But I managed to (partially) register the SIM, and I've had 3 texts from the provider on the same phone. The last one said I had to leave the phone on so they could register me with the network, but I've not had the text they said I would get when the process was complete.

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Re: A mobile phone’s ability to receive a signal and other related items.

OK, so let me get this right, I need to get a 3G compatible phone for this SIM to work? If this is the case then so be it, so does anyone have any recommendations.

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Re: A mobile phone’s ability to receive a signal and other related items.

Strange, I know. I had the same thing when registering a Three sim on a dual SIM phone, not realising that I hadn’t enabled 3G for the slot the sim was in. It would seem that some ‘service’ messages do get through - maybe there is some strange system whereby some messages bypass the usual systems, rather like being able to make emergency calls even without a SIM card?

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Re: A mobile phone’s ability to receive a signal and other related items.

OK, I'll order another phone but I'll wait first to see if there are any recommendations first.

 

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Are you definitely wanting to stick with three? If not, it might be cheaper / simpler to go for a different network. O2 PAYG now offer the same prices as three, ie 3p/min, 2p/SMS, 1p/MB.

Edit to add: You would need to do ‘something’ every 6 months to keep it active, and the minimum topup is £10 rather than the £5 with three.

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Re: A mobile phone’s ability to receive a signal and other related items.

OK, so let me get this right, I need to get a 3G compatible phone for this SIM to work? If this is the case then so be it, so does anyone have any recommendations.

Given that you wish to use the THREE network , Possible options :-

1) the cheapest 3g phone from the Three store http://www.three.co.uk/Alcatel/Pixi-3?featuretab=Go%20Binge&memory=4&colour=Black# ( you're going to have to buy a £10 top up , but you can probably apply it to your old sim , or use it in the new one! )

2) A cheap PAYG locked 3g phone that can easily be unlocked , something like http://www.argos.co.uk/product/5654640 , and https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VODAFONE-SMART-FIRST-7-UNLOCK-CODE-NETWORK-PIN-IRELAND-SPAIN-UK-ITALY-INS... ( although you'll almost certainly have to buy a minimum £10 top up as well )

3) A cheap Chinese unlocked 3g phone something like this https://www.amazon.co.uk/BLU-Vivo-Mini-SIM-Free-Smartphone-Rose-Gold/dp/B01N7FECYS/ref=sr_1_24?s=tel... or this https://www.amazon.co.uk/Smartphones-DOOGEE-Unlocked-Mobile-Phones/dp/B07117PCLY/ref=sr_1_19?s=telep...

 

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Re: A mobile phone’s ability to receive a signal and other related items.

@Mook take the phone to a "carphone warehouse" store, and see if they have a "cheapy" "upgrade"  to one that can use the internet,.. (i.e. smart phone )...  I replaced my old nokia with a microsoft nokia 435 about 2 years ago, cost me £2.95   and it works a treat.... 

Tell the guy you only want it to "pair" up with your laptop, or just to keep in the car for emergency use... and definitely want to stay on THREE P.A.Y.G. tariff... otherwise they may want to sell you something on a monthly contract..

 

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Re: A mobile phone’s ability to receive a signal and other related items.

To explain the 2G only phone registering on Three....

 

Three have a legacy network sharing agreement with Orange. This only exists in very few areas these days as the majority of Orange 2G masts have been upgraded and merged in the EE network.

Until about a year ago I could get a 2G signal on Three from the local mast. Three do not use that mast and the Three 3G signal is poor in the centre of my local town.

 

Edit: link to article on Three starting to switch off Orange 2G in 2010.    https://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/11/08/3uk_orange_roaming/

 

However, I now have a phone which supports Threes 4G VOLTE "supervoice". The coverage on supervoice is very good. It works in many places where 3G simply fails.

 

Richard