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A Boeing 747 lands on aircraft carrier

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A Boeing 747 lands on aircraft carrier

The wrong way !....


also the take-off looks a bit scary.... ( at least they managed to turn it round to fly off the proper way )... ( no catapult needed either ! ! )...
Meanwhile.... a private plane  ( Fixed Wing )...  lands on a tanker, in the English Channel.... and takes off again...

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not sure which variant but they used to do this quite regularly with 737's, the trick was to have the carrier drive into the wind at 30 knots in order to increase airflow for the take off, but it was only possible on the yank carrier's since there a wee bit larger than anyone else's  Wink
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The wrong way !....


Excellent simulation!  On You Tube there are also several simulations of B737s 'landing' on an aircraft carrier.
There used to be an airshow stunt where a pilot touched down on to a moving truck. A small platform had been built on the the truck to take the light aircraft.
I saw that at Biggin Hill but I can't find it on YouTube.

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Re: A Boeing 747 lands on aircraft carrier

Here is the "proper" way to land on a carrier......
With a 747 .... of course...

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Re: A Boeing 747 lands on aircraft carrier

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not sure which variant but they used to do this quite regularly with 737's

You do realise that the first video was a flight sim don't you?
You can't really land a commercial airliner on a military aircraft carrier. It doesn't work.
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yes I'm perfectly aware its a flight sim
I'm also referring to actual occurrences in the past, and I'm not sure which variant it was that they used for the job and I also am aware that each variant has some significant differences that change its capabilities rather drastically, as for landing a commercial jetliner on an aircraft carrier, its something that was done more than once in non emergency situations in the past, however its only possible on the larger carriers (and the last one capable of it was decommissioned some years ago) certainly the British carrier couldn't of managed it as they were all far to small.
and it always amazes me that people forget the airport in Hong Kong isn't any larger than a carrier strip, indeed it was used to train pilots for carrier landings on larger aircraft, the theory being if you could manage it when there was land nearby you could do it on the open ocean.
if that were a real landing of a commercial jetliner the deck would of been clear so that there was no collision problems with engines and fighters etc....

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A Boeing 747-400 needs about 2,180m  to land and about 3.020m  to take off.
It will have to be a pretty enormous aircraft carrier to accomodate that aircraft.
The US Nimitz Class carrier, although huge only manages a length of 333m.
Incidently HKG International Airport runways are about 3,800m.
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and it always amazes me that people forget the airport in Hong Kong isn't any larger than a carrier strip, indeed it was used to train pilots for carrier landings on larger aircraft, the theory being if you could manage it when there was land nearby you could do it on the open ocean


Both the old and new airport are considerable longer than a carrier being over 3000m. What made it difficult for the old airport was flying lower and between buildings.
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....which indeed was one of the many driving forces behind moving the airport - that they needed to maintain a clearway though the skyscrapers for the approaching aircraft so in effect could not build under the flight path.
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Re: A Boeing 747 lands on aircraft carrier

That was fun

I was beginning to think there wasn't a runway.
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Re: A Boeing 747 lands on aircraft carrier

This one (at dawn)... looks to be coming down in the opposite direction...


Of course, it could be at the new airport... as it was published 2012 !  Roll eyes
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Re: A Boeing 747 lands on aircraft carrier

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not sure which variant but they used to do this quite regularly with 737's, the trick was to have the carrier drive into the wind at 30 knots in order to increase airflow for the take off, but it was only possible on the yank carrier's since there a wee bit larger than anyone else's  Wink

No way.
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not sure which variant but they used to do this quite regularly with 737's, the trick was to have the carrier drive into the wind at 30 knots in order to increase airflow for the take off, but it was only possible on the yank carrier's since there a wee bit larger than anyone else's  Wink

No way.

Exactly what I thought. I think nanotm is making a few things up to make himself sound "in the know".

Boeing 737-600 has the shortest take off distance of all the 737s according to the linked page for the above image.
According to wikipedias "Worlds longest ships" page none of them have exceeded 500 metres:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_world%27s_longest_ships
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I'm also referring to actual occurrences in the past, and I'm not sure which variant it was that they used for the job and I also am aware that each variant has some significant differences that change its capabilities rather drastically,

A few posts ago you were very sure that it was a 737.
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as for landing a commercial jetliner on an aircraft carrier, its something that was done more than once in non emergency situations in the past, however its only possible on the larger carriers (and the last one capable of it was decommissioned some years ago) certainly the British carrier couldn't of managed it as they were all far to small.

This is utter rubbish. First of all you can't name any specific incidents just "its something that was done more than once". Secondly you claim it's only possible on the larger carriers - none of which meet 500m in length (and the 737 I mention above needs 1342m to land) and finally.. what do you think the aircraft carriers tower would be in the way of? - WINGS. Commercial airlines have wide wingspans. The width of any aircraft carrier in existence or previously in existence has never been wide enough to get the tower out of the way of the wings.
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and it always amazes me that people forget the airport in Hong Kong isn't any larger than a carrier strip, indeed it was used to train pilots for carrier landings on larger aircraft, the theory being if you could manage it when there was land nearby you could do it on the open ocean.

No, it was never the size of an aircraft carrier, it was a diffficult landing site because planes had to come in with two large buildings in the way and then perform a sharp turn to line up with the runway - something only very skilled pilots could master.
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if that were a real landing of a commercial jetliner the deck would of been clear so that there was no collision problems with engines and fighters etc....

Yet clearly you've not watched the first link shutter posted otherwise you'd have seen the wings go through the carriers tower and seen this as a real life issue  Roll eyes

Sorry nanotm, you've just your credibility in this topic.
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Re: A Boeing 747 lands on aircraft carrier

I'm sure light aircrafts such as cessena's and saratoga's could land on a aircraft carrier if needed to in a emergency situation.
A friend of mine takes off from Newcastle on some days to get to work in Hull (uses Humberside airport) and only uses a quarter or even less than of the runway to take off.
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Re: A Boeing 747 lands on aircraft carrier

But nano wasn't talking of smaller private / commercial aircraft, he was claiming that the larger commercial airliners could use an aircraft carrier such as the boeing 737.
I think we're all aware that smaller aircraft require smaller runways. Heck I'm pretty sure you could land a helicopter on an aircraft carrier too Wink
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