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1911 Census Snip

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1911 Census Snip

I was just looking at a 1911 census document which includes my mother.
Towards the right of the document is a section dealing with any infirmities that the people on the census may have.

How times have changed when describing infirmities.

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Also interesting is the names or descriptions of illness folks would die of such as 'spontaneous combustion' (too much Brandy) or 'visitation by God' (not a clue)

Doing my own family history over the past months and years I have come across some real gems of obfuscation!

 

 


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It was really say it as you see it.

Dusty Bin would have felt right at home with those old censuses - or is it censii?

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Ah, those were the days when you could honestly describe people as you saw them without causing offence, outrage and potentially arrest for some crime or other.

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I remember reading about an ordinary country woman who, a couple of centuries ago, had inherited a small farm.  The local landed gentry thought it outrageous that a woman, and a 'simple' one at that, should own land so they took her to court.  The transcript of the case contained some unusually blunt questions, e.g. have you always been an idiot?

'Broken heart' used to be given as a cause of death on death certificates until about a hundred years ago, and we are not talking heart disease but a love affair gone wrong.

The words moron, imbecile, and idiot were used by psychiatrists to describe people in specific IQ ranges, moron being the brightest and idiot being the 'dimmest'.

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@billnotben wrote:

 

Dusty Bin would have felt right at home with those old censuses - or is it censii?


A pedant writes:

As a 4th declension noun the Latin plural of census is census (with a long "u")

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I would have thought the plural of census would be censi but Google says I’m wrong….

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I probably speak for most of us that we're not bothered how it's spelt.  Funny

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...or if you're a Merkin, how it's spelled.


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@Jonpe 

Not unusual a couple of centuries ago for the poor women to have actually been 'simple' and unable to manage as country folks back then did not travel far and would marry into or 'engage with' (I'm being kind here) members of their own families extended or otherwise. Village idiots they might have been, but until the State intervened their own communities would car for them. 

Family innit. 😕   

Retrospective judgement is a minefield as we are all finding out these days and are being obliged to atone and apologise for. All for putting the clock right as long as it does not upset anybody, but putting it back and being made accountable....

 

 


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@beeceegee, it would appear that the noun census became naturalised quite a long time ago.  The OED does not give a plural, which means it is regular, i.e. censuses.  The use of the plural of the word is relatively uncommon and I didn't read all the references but there is certainly one recorded instance of its use as far back as the mid-1800s.

I hope that clears it up and that we can all sleep better now.

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@Jonpe wrote:

I hope that clears it up and that we can all sleep better now.


As will the octopuses.  😄


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@198kHz wrote:


As will the octopuses.  😄


Unless you bake them into an octopie. 😀

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Further information:  Being of Greek origin the plural was octopodes, however the Anglicised version octopuses was recorded as far back as 1880.  The word did find its way into Latin where the plural would have been octopi, and some dictionaries give this as an alternative plural, the OED does not, nor does the "British Dictionary Definitions" section of dictionary.com.

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