Battefield: Bad Company PS3 - Lag too bad to play!

[#1]

Im getting the message.
The router in use may not support ip fragments, and the communication of some game features may be restricted and to contact router manufacturer.
This is down to the MTU set to 1492 but i get it when the ps3 is set to auto.
I am still getting Nat 2 but what can i do about this warning ?  Does anybody Know ?

[#2]

Have a look here http://www.kitz.co.uk/adsl/MTU2.htm to see how to work out your maximum MTU.
Put that into the router and restart it. Leave the PS3 set to auto.

[#3]

The router always defaults to 1492 , even if i try to input a new value of 1500 it will revert back to 1492.
The ps3 is set to auto but it still comes up with the message, i tried changing the ps3 mtu to 1492 but it still showed the message.
I cant change my mtu cos i think plusnet stuff runs on 1492 i think.
Dont know why i would have to find out what my MTU is though ? Cos i cant change it other than on ps3 and i have that set to auto unless im testing. Ive noticed that above 1496 the message goes but i was on virgin at the time..
I would use tcp optimiser to fix my rwin setting normally on pc.

[#4]

running NG dg834g with mtu 1500 here no probs
as for runing manual port forwarding and upnp side by side diffrent routers give diffrent or no problems.
ie the only problem i get from this on my  dg834g is if iam connected to XBL and i do a resync or basic disconnect reconnect to plusnet why still logged into XBL. then when trying to log back in to xbl when router has rebooted will not work and i have to clear the ports from the upnp table of the router to get back into xbl.
i will leave you in the hands of adiewoo as he's the man for PS3.
hey adiewoo back to the xbox/ps3 fight. how come it allways seems to be the ps3 with connection problems on this forum?

[#5]

Ive got D link DSL-2640B that will only use 1492 MTU and cannot change it. Although it was supplied by Plusnet they dont offer any support about the problem i have and tell me to contact Playstation even though the problem is with the router not the PS3..

[#6]

if its saying packets need to be fragmented then surely the router has a lower mtu value than the device that is sending them.
you shouldnt have to be on 1500 mtu. as for the xbox i think the lowest mtu can use with that is around 1390 ish.
will you ps3 not let you manualy input a mtu value as the same as your routers?
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his is all new settings to me as xbox is pretty much a plug an play beast and cant set things like these plus with the new dashboard you cant even tell what nat score you got any more.

[#7]

I can add a manual mtu to the ps3 but i still get the error message.
Ive just checked my settings and found that i hadnt been given a static ip and plusnet firewall blocks PS3 ports for gaming.

I was told several times when ive been phoning for help that i had a static ip as this was one of my concerns as i ordered one when i took the service out, but still i had a dynamic IP, as for the firewall ive just turned it off as i have a firwall on pc.
If i have managed to fix my own issues then it doesnt say much for the tech support from plusnet that they couldnt even look at a screen when asked a question.
Im not a total novice with network setups but it looks like some of them are.
I will have to check tonight to see if there is any change in the lag now i have opened up the closed ports and i now have a static ip.
Only time will tell cos it looks like im on my own with this one.
Any advice will be helpful though if this doesnt work.

[#8]

I have my PS3 in the DMZ, router MTU set to 1500 and PS3 MTU set to auto.
Don't have anymore lag in games than the friends I play with who are on different ISPs and even countries.
I wouldn't have thought static IP would make any difference to whether PSN works.
ASBO: it because the XBOX has to be made for 'simple' people as if it wasn't plug 'n' prey the players heads would explode having to manually configure stuff 

[#9]

Quote from: adiewoo

ASBO: it because the XBOX has to be made for 'simple' people as if it wasn't plug 'n' prey the players heads would explode having to manually configure stuff

i dis b true. M$ tried to work out what the tech abbilities was of its xbox users was. but due to the billions that use the xbox not  even there most powerful computer could crunch the sums. so just made it it easy to setup.
As for sony working out what there ps3 users tech knowledge was they just pulled out a 1980's casio calculator watch.
note to self: must buy ps3 so i can help plusnet ps3 users in the future.
must go now and increase my kill:death ratio some more on the back's of the millions of M$ simpletons
excuse my foolishness adiewoo. being a simpleton i cant help my self hope i havent offended a super brainy ps3 user.

[#10]

never  Now we better get back on topic before we get told off 

[#11]

Quote from: adiewoo

I have my PS3 in the DMZ, router MTU set to 1500 and PS3 MTU set to auto. Don't have anymore lag in games than the friends I play with who are on different ISPs and even countries. I wouldn't have thought static IP would make any difference to whether PSN works. ASBO: it because the XBOX has to be made for 'simple' people as if it wasn't plug 'n' prey the players heads would explode having to manually configure stuff

I have the D link router , Yours is a netgear isnt it. mine will only go to 1492.
I also hope that the Pro Package i have allows prioritisation of traffic for 24 hrs a day as oppased to fewer hours than with other options.And i think the other packages dont have some of the benifits that the pro package has too like P2P traffic which i think is what the ps3 uses. (Please correct me if im wrong)
Static helped my connection with O2, before it ,it was as bad as the one i had last night.
I have played FPS games for a long time on the ps3 and had Loads of different ISP's so i do have something to compare plusnet to, I also Know that you get your fair share of lag playing online which is down to servers used as ive heard that the WAW servers are not regionaly locked but can tell the difference between lag and connection issue.
After my problems i played with Virgin Connection which is poor due to busy exchange but it was still better than the plusnet one, lets hope it wont be for long as my KD ratio took a nose dive trying Plusnet pro Package, Couldnt even play private matches either, so its bad.

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COD4 used P2P for it's online gaming, not sure about WaW as I haven't had any issues I haven't investigated it.
Your pro package will certainly help for any games that aren't defined. However I'm on an old package so it seems WaW is defined ok.
Part of the problem for the PS3 games is that unlike XBOX the ports used for gaming aren't standard which makes configuring the QoS on your router a pain from what I have read.
I have a Netgear router.

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getting very  here
firstly bfbc has certain lag issues on ps3 and has had since day 1 well documented in ps3 boards. secondly how has pn managed to alter the settings? I was under the impression that all ps3 traffic goes through the same ports and is classed by pn as browsing.
And finally nat2 is set up correctly

[#14]

The gaming traffic doesn't go through the same ports.
AFAIK each game has a set of signatures that are added to the Ellacoya's which are used to set the priority of the traffic.
PSN store downloads and firmware updates are treated as download servers.

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For ps3 you need loads of ports forwaded for the PSN network and then you need some ports forwaded for certain games.
You can put your ps3 in the DMZ too but not very secure that way, but hey there hasnt been any issues with viruses so far so who knows.
I know some games have bad lag especially WAW, new game and all that , but i tried my connectoion on COD4 which is much better for servers and had lag on all games.
On a good day if i get 40% of games with lag then im happy, But 100% lag not so much, On O2 i got 80% online gaming  lag free and thought by changing to a ISP who specialise in online gaming packages i could have improved the laggy games, So far how wrong could i be.
Lets hope that tommorrow that i will be writing how good my connection is, But lets not get ahead of ourselves.
Come on plusnet give your customers some support, with helping them out when they have an issue instead of ignoring the problem and hoping it goes away. I think plusnet hope that people dont know the difference with connections for gaming, Im afraid i do guys , I am a member of an online gaming comunity with over 300 members who where all waiting to see how i got on and are awaiting my post to tell them all what your like as an isp.
Im afraid that i will have to tell them all what has been my experience so far with you, we only have 1 member with plusnet connection other than me and so guys where interested in changing to find a supplier as they had issues with there's.
Even if my connection works great from now on i will never recomend plusnet to anyone and out of all the isp's ive had (and ive had alot) you are by far the worst ive ever come accross.
Well better go to post on me gaming forum. Thanks for the forum guys who have tried to help on here by sugesting fixes , Its a shame plusnet wernt as helpful.
If your thinking of trying plusnet , dont bother O2 dont have a download limit, there speeds are higher and if your looking for online gaming package then go for ASDL2+ , noise at 6 and get yourself a static ip with them and you will find its the best online connection ive had so far.
Lets hope my problems will now be over but to be honest im not sure they are. But trying to stay positive , ill wait and see.