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Self installed
02-10-2015 9:36 PM
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Re: Self installed
03-10-2015 7:03 AM
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What you should have done is requested the data extension kit when you placed the order. Then the engineer would have installed an extension socket for the VDSL2 modem. But it's a bit late for that now.
Re: Self installed
03-10-2015 7:08 AM
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Re: Self installed
03-10-2015 9:36 AM
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Re: Self installed
03-10-2015 1:11 PM
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Re: Self installed
03-10-2015 2:29 PM
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ejs made a couple of useful points which I have noted, but would like to see a thorough and detailed explanation of the whole changeover procedure, rather than stuff like 'you can be provided with a 30-metre "data cable" which is part of the "kit" '. I would prefer to buy my own choice of electronics, install my own extension cable, and change myself the part of the master socket which belongs to me if that would provide filtering.
Re: Self installed
03-10-2015 2:38 PM
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Re: Self installed
03-10-2015 2:57 PM
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The BT modem can either be wall mounted or flat mounted
The Plusnet router plugs into that
The engineer will fit a new master socket with a built in filtered faceplate
Once you have that you can do whatever you want including a single VDSL capable router
If you want to fiddle with the everything beyond the rear part of the master socket including fitting your own faceplate with or without built in filter you can do it but don't expect any assistance from Plusnet if it doesn't work satisfactorily
Re: Self installed
03-10-2015 3:08 PM
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VDSL2 from the cabinet is actually much the same as ADSL in terms of filtering, wiring and sockets, it's just that VDSL2 will suffer far worse from bad wiring than ADSL.
If you don't have a centralised filtered faceplate on your master socket, the DSL signal will go to all extension sockets, you could plug the modem/router into any one of them, each telephone would need to be connected to a plug-in microfilter. VDSL2 can work like that, possibly not as well as it would with a centralised filter, it's probably not optimal for ADSL either.
With a BT SSFP (Service Specific Face Plate), the DSL signal is removed from all wiring connected to the removable lower front part of the NTE5. The DSL signal is present on the RJ45 top socket, and there are IDC terminals on the SSFP for extension wiring that will carry the DSL signal, as circled in red in one of the pictures here: http://www.run-it-direct.co.uk/btvdslfaceplate.html
(I expect you could find a Mk3 SSFP on ebay for less than the Mk2 from Run IT Direct)
Extension wiring is your own responsibility, if an engineer installs the data extension kit, that becomes part of the end users' extension wiring, and comes with I think a 12 month warranty.
It may be too late for rookey to get an Openreach (or contractor) engineer to install the data extension kit, but anyone can do their own extension wiring at any time.
@Oldjim
What master socket are BT installing these days? Isn't it still an NTE5 with a SSFP plugged in and fixed on with screws?
Note 1: The Mk2 and Mk3 SSFP also contain "common mode" filtering components, which remove interference from the DSL signal.
Re: Self installed
03-10-2015 3:18 PM
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Re: Self installed
03-10-2015 4:38 PM
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The road in which I live was created in 1998, so fibre could easily have been provided along with the copper wire, but I presume was not. Even a rookie or a rookey would know that transmission distance usually involves attentuation. Adding five or six metres of cable should be comparatively unimportant, though knowing the optimum type would be helpful.
Re: Self installed
03-10-2015 5:02 PM
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You don't strip the ends of the wires, you push them into the IDC (Insulation Displacement Connector) with a special tool, the IDC cuts through the insulation as the wire is inserted. This also means the wires need to be solid core, cables made of stranded wires won't work in IDC terminals.
The videos here may be useful: https://www.youtube.com/user/mymatevince
Re: Self installed
05-10-2015 5:34 PM
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I have had three ISPs. BT's service didn't work, and they said they couldn't help me fix it as the work was contracted out. Tiscali earned themselves a web page entitled "Tiscali the pusillanimous", because they closed down my website at the bidding of a dishonest and corrupt Sussex policeman named PC Francis. Plusnet has been irreproachable and good value for ten years, and I don't want to put at risk a system that is currently working well.
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