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Protecting my upstream speed - turning off aggressive downstream SNR...?

ejs
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Re: Protecting my upstream speed - turning off aggressive downstream SNR...?

I wouldn't discount crosstalk because of the GEA Test result - I thought it very rarely says crosstalk detected. I think it may only ever say crosstalk detected if the line has vectoring, although I'm not sure about this. Perhaps it also says crosstalk detected if there are excessive levels of crosstalk.

It also says no impact for the observed interference. It would says errors or retrains there if there were an impact detected.

dws1900
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Re: Protecting my upstream speed - turning off aggressive downstream SNR...?

@ejs

Re crosstalk, OP is ok, mine appeared on the last GEA, all others prior to this were clear.

Due to more people piling on to the dslam, which has a 128 line extension on the side. (and is too far away!!)

ejs
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Re: Protecting my upstream speed - turning off aggressive downstream SNR...?

I'm sure there will be lots and lots of people who have lost speed over months and years, due to crosstalk, and their GEA test will say not detected for crosstalk.

dws1900
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Re: Protecting my upstream speed - turning off aggressive downstream SNR...?

@ejs

Re vectoring, the Vigor 2860 does not appear to show this in dsl status unless this is appropriate?

Path Mode Fast Fast
Interleave Depth 1 1

 

Trellis ON ON
Bitswap ON ON

 

 Also not sure if it would show G-INP status.

 

Please can you clarify?

 

Thanks

ejs
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Re: Protecting my upstream speed - turning off aggressive downstream SNR...?

Apparently Drayteks put the words Vectoring Active somewhere if it is.

G.INP (retransmission) is labelled ReTx.

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Re: Protecting my upstream speed - turning off aggressive downstream SNR...?

@ejs

 

Thanks for the reply.

I would expect that the G.INP status will popup if its active, the dslam is a Huawei version.

There it is in all its glory.

Thanks for your assistance.

 

     
  Downstream             Upstream                
Actual Rate 21934 Kbps 2470 Kbps
Attainable Rate 21659 Kbps 2497 Kbps
Path Mode Fast Fast
Interleave Depth 1 1
Actual PSD 7. 1 dB 12. 6 dB
 
 
  Near End                  Far End                   
Trellis ON ON
Bitswap ON ON
ReTx 0   1  
dws1900
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Re: Protecting my upstream speed - turning off aggressive downstream SNR...?

@Bobsta

 

Hi

 Apologies for hijacking the thread a bit, but I wanted to ensure you got a realistic comparison from someone on a similar length of line.

Clearly there is an issue somewhere.

Not sure if you can get anymore info out of your modem, hope you get it resolved.

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Re: Protecting my upstream speed - turning off aggressive downstream SNR...?

@dws1900 no problem at all with your input (not hijacking). It's been very helpful as it's good to be able to compare to real-world results on a similar line length.

 

My modem is an unlocked Huawei HG612 connected to a Huawei cabinet. I have DSLstats capturing and recording connection info from it. My latest full connection stats data is below (vectoring unconfigured but G.INP active):

 

xdslcmd info --stats
xdslcmd: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Retrain Reason:	1
Last initialization procedure status:	0
Max:	Upstream rate = 1549 Kbps, Downstream rate = 23468 Kbps
Bearer:	0, Upstream rate = 1549 Kbps, Downstream rate = 22642 Kbps
Bearer:	1, Upstream rate = 0 Kbps, Downstream rate = 0 Kbps
Link Power State:	L0
Mode:			VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL2 Profile:		Profile 17a
TPS-TC:			PTM Mode(0x0)
Trellis:		U:ON /D:ON
Line Status:		No Defect
Training Status:	Showtime
		Down		Up
SNR (dB):	 4.1		 6.4
Attn(dB):	 29.5		 0.0
Pwr(dBm):	 9.6		 4.8
			VDSL2 framing
			Bearer 0
MSGc:		-6		26
B:		227		47
M:		1		1
T:		0		37
R:		10		0
S:		0.3203		0.9697
L:		5945		396
D:		4		1
I:		238		48
N:		238		48
Q:		4		0
V:		0		0
RxQueue:		55		0
TxQueue:		11		0
G.INP Framing:		18		0
G.INP lookback:		11		0
RRC bits:		0		24
			Bearer 1
MSGc:		90		-6
B:		0		0
M:		2		0
T:		2		0
R:		16		0
S:		10.6667		0.0000
L:		24		0
D:		1		0
I:		32		0
N:		32		0
Q:		0		0
V:		0		0
RxQueue:		0		0
TxQueue:		0		0
G.INP Framing:		0		0
G.INP lookback:		0		0
RRC bits:		0		0
			Counters
			Bearer 0
OHF:		0		549504
OHFErr:		43		47
RS:		896205004		800850
RSCorr:		15197076		0
RSUnCorr:	0		0
			Bearer 1
OHF:		4484855		0
OHFErr:		0		0
RS:		26908763		0
RSCorr:		522		0
RSUnCorr:	0		0

			Retransmit Counters
rtx_tx:		27293484		0
rtx_c:		25114748		0
rtx_uc:		105371		0

			G.INP Counters
LEFTRS:		44636		0
minEFTR:	22231		0
errFreeBits:	142068175		0

			Bearer 0
HEC:		0		0
OCD:		0		0
LCD:		0		0
Total Cells:	3117861107		0
Data Cells:	207372849		0
Drop Cells:	0
Bit Errors:	0		0

			Bearer 1
HEC:		0		0
OCD:		0		0
LCD:		0		0
Total Cells:	0		0
Data Cells:	0		0
Drop Cells:	0
Bit Errors:	0		0

ES:		375		118
SES:		193		0
UAS:		402		245
AS:		72038

			Bearer 0
INP:		55.00		0.00
INPRein:	1.00		0.00
delay:		0		0
PER:		0.00		9.00
OR:		0.01		28.42
AgR:		22692.19	1577.83

			Bearer 1
INP:		2.50		0.00
INPRein:	2.50		0.00
delay:		0		0
PER:		16.06		0.01
OR:		47.81		0.01
AgR:		47.81	0.01

Bitswap:	47215/47215		1054/1054

Total time = 1 days 2 hours 2 min 12 sec
FEC:		170965694		0
CRC:		2345		137
ES:		375		118
SES:		193		0
UAS:		402		245
LOS:		3		0
LOF:		25		0
LOM:		0		0
Latest 15 minutes time = 2 min 12 sec
FEC:		77414		0
CRC:		0		1
ES:		0		1
SES:		0		0
UAS:		0		0
LOS:		0		0
LOF:		0		0
LOM:		0		0
Previous 15 minutes time = 15 min 0 sec
FEC:		522851		0
CRC:		0		0
ES:		0		0
SES:		0		0
UAS:		0		0
LOS:		0		0
LOF:		0		0
LOM:		0		0
Latest 1 day time = 2 hours 2 min 12 sec
FEC:		3625042		0
CRC:		0		11
ES:		0		7
SES:		0		0
UAS:		0		0
LOS:		0		0
LOF:		0		0
LOM:		0		0
Previous 1 day time = 24 hours 0 sec
FEC:		57957326		0
CRC:		1156		75
ES:		339		62
SES:		31		0
UAS:		45		24
LOS:		1		0
LOF:		9		0
LOM:		0		0
Since Link time = 20 hours 37 sec
FEC:		15197076		0
CRC:		43		47
ES:		2		42
SES:		1		0
UAS:		0		0
LOS:		0		0
LOF:		0		0
LOM:		0		0
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dws1900
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Re: Protecting my upstream speed - turning off aggressive downstream SNR...?

@Bobsta

Hi,

 

There is no figure for the upstream attenuation, my stats below.

Not sure why this stat is missing.

PSD appears to be the power level.

 

 

Downstream             Upstream                
Actual Rate 21934 Kbps 2470 Kbps
Attainable Rate 21643 Kbps 2474 Kbps
Path Mode Fast Fast
Interleave Depth 1 1
Actual PSD 7. 1 dB 12. 6 dB
 
 
  Near End                  Far End                   
Trellis ON ON
Bitswap ON ON
ReTx 0   1  
SNR Margin 4 dB 5 dB
Attenuation 31 dB 37 dB
CRC 128 5833
FECS 0 s 83 s
ES 57 s 4297 s
SES 0 s 37 s
LOSS 0 s 0 s
UAS 26 s 1293324 s
HEC Errors 0 0
RS Corrections 0 0
LOS Failure 0 0
LOF Failure 0 0
LPR Failure 0 0
NCD Failure 0 0
LCD Failure 0 0
NFEC 64 32
RFEC 0 16
LYSMB 627 16