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Possible DLM resetted as my line are now banded

goldenfibre
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Re: Possible DLM resetted as my line are now banded

Updated: Engineer is here from openreach at my property now.
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Re: Possible DLM resetted as my line are now banded

Updated : Engineer has resetted DLM to open profile for the first two days. Line all paased and had now left.
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Re: Possible DLM resetted as my line are now banded

@adamwalker @deank Line are now open profile after DLM resetted by an engineer without G.INP for few days. Could PN please set PN to open profile at 78Mb.

Line stats now:

DLM Resetted (Open Profile for first two days) 21st August 2018 by Openreach Engineer at 11:33am

Connection stats

adsl info --stats
adsl: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Last Retrain Reason: 0
Last initialization procedure status: 0
Max: Upstream rate = 26797 Kbps, Downstream rate = 80556 Kbps
Bearer: 0, Upstream rate = 19999 Kbps, Downstream rate = 67526 Kbps

Link Power State: L0
Mode: VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL2 Profile: Profile 17a
TPS-TC: PTM Mode(0x0)
Trellis: U:ON /D:ON
Line Status: No Defect
Training Status: Showtime
Down Up
SNR (dB): 6.2 15.1
Attn(dB): 12.0 0.0
Pwr(dBm): 12.5 0.9

VDSL2 framing
Bearer 0
MSGc: 18 26
B: 51 237
M: 1 1
T: 64 42
R: 12 16
S: 0.0245 0.3781
L: 20896 5374
D: 1321 1
I: 64 127
N: 64 254

Counters
Bearer 0
OHF: 138477 54774
OHFErr: 0 0
RS: 35450023 2299498
RSCorr: 0 0
RSUnCorr: 0 0

Bearer 0
HEC: 0 0
OCD: 0 0
LCD: 0 0
Total Cells: 28308888 0
Data Cells: 12256 0
Drop Cells: 0
Bit Errors: 0 0

ES: 0 0
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
AS: 218

Bearer 0
INP: 3.00 0.00
INPRein: 0.00 0.00
delay: 8 0
PER: 1.57 3.98
OR: 121.96 64.22
AgR: 67647.75 20063.54

Bitswap: 0/0 0/0

Total time = 7 min 0 sec
FEC: 0 0
CRC: 0 0
ES: 0 0
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Latest 15 minutes time = 7 min 0 sec
FEC: 0 0
CRC: 0 0
ES: 0 0
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Previous 15 minutes time = 0 sec
FEC: 0 0
CRC: 0 0
ES: 0 0
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Latest 1 day time = 7 min 0 sec
FEC: 0 0
CRC: 0 0
ES: 0 0
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Previous 1 day time = 0 sec
FEC: 0 0
CRC: 0 0
ES: 0 0
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Since Link time = 7 min 0 sec
FEC: 0 0
CRC: 0 0
ES: 0 0
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
________________________________________________________________________________________

xDSL
Mode VDSL2
Traffic Type PTM
Status Up
Link Power State L0
Downstream Upstream
Line Coding (Trellis) On On
SNR Margin (dB) 6.2 15.1
Attenuation (dB) 12.0 0.0
Output Power (dBm) 12.5 0.9
Attainable Rate (Kbps) 80556 26797
Rate (Kbps) 67526 19999
B (# of bytes in Mux Data Frame) 51 237
M (# of Mux Data Frames in an RS codeword) 1 1
T (# of Mux Data Frames in an OH sub-frame) 64 42
R (# of redundancy bytes in the RS codeword) 12 16
S (# of data symbols over which the RS code word spans) 0.0245 0.3781
L (# of bits transmitted in each data symbol) 20896 5374
D (interleaver depth) 1321 1
I (interleaver block size in bytes) 64 127
N (RS codeword size) 64 254
Delay (msec) 8 0
INP (DMT symbol) 3.00 0.00
OH Frames 217243 85573
OH Frame Errors 0 0
RS Words 55614255 3611371
RS Correctable Errors 0 0
RS Uncorrectable Errors 0 0
HEC Errors 0 0
OCD Errors 0 0
LCD Errors 0 0
Total Cells 44411191 0
Data Cells 14932 0
Bit Errors 0 0
Total ES 0 0
Total SES 0 0
Total UAS 0 0
________________________________________________________________________________________

Stats recorded 21 Aug 2018 11:33:00

DSLAM type / SW version: BDCM:0xa48c (164.140) / v0xa48c
Modem/router firmware: AnnexA version - A2pv6F039g1.d24m
DSL mode: VDSL2 Profile 17a
Status: Showtime
Uptime: 0 hour 7 min 0 sec
Resyncs: 0 (since 21 Aug 2018 11:33:00)

Downstream Upstream
Line attenuation (dB): 12.0 0.0
Signal attenuation (dB): Not available on VDSL2
Connection speed (kbps): 67526 19999
SNR margin (dB): 6.2 15.1
Power (dBm): 12.5 0.9
Interleave depth: 1321 1
INP: 3.00 0
G.INP: Not enabled Not enabled
Vectoring status: 5 (VECT_UNCONFIGURED)

RSCorr/RS (%): 0.0000 0.0000
RSUnCorr/RS (%): 0.0000 0.0000
ES/hour: 0 0
_________________________________________________________________________________________


80556 26797 Attainable Rate (Kbps)
67526 19999 Sync Rate (Kbps)
6.2 15.1 SNR Margin (dB)
12.0 0.0 Line Attenuation (dB)
12.5 0.9 Output Power (dBm)
1321 1 Interleave Depth
3.00 0.00 INP
Not enabled Not enabled G.INP
5 (VECT_UNCONFIGURED) Vectoring status

Bearer 0
INP: 3.00 0.00
INPRein: 0.00 0.00
delay: 8 0
PER: 1.57 3.98
OR: 121.96 64.22
AgR: 67647.75 20063.54

Bitswap: 0/0 0/0

For your connection, the acceptable range of speeds is 40 Mbps-65.36 Mbps
Additional Information:
IP Profile for your line is - 65.36 Mbps
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Re: Possible DLM resetted as my line are now banded

Hi @goldenfibre I'm glad to hear the engineer has attended. I have tested the line and it is testing all OK this side also. 

 

I have updated the profile our side too. 

 

Let us know if you have any further issues. 

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Re: Possible DLM resetted as my line are now banded

@LaurenB I was very lucky to be at home because I was about to go out for the day. PN never informed me of an engineer was booked in, no ones told me this. He just come to my property by surprise, never expecting any engineer today because PN sent off to BTWholesale yesterday as a fault ref. But, I just glad it all went ok today this morning after engineer has resetted DLM to open profile without g.inp for first two days.

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Re: Possible DLM resetted as my line are now banded


@goldenfibre wrote:

@deank there is no errors on the line (downstream on the ES & SES)

Since Link time = 1 hours 32 min 33 sec
FEC: 30
CRC: 0
ES: 0
SES: 0
UAS: 0
LOS: 0
LOF: 0
LOM: 0

PN why is Estimated Line Length In Metres has changed below:

Before:

Estimated Line Length In Metres 243.6

Now:

Estimated Line Length In Metres 262.7

 

You should ignore the Esimated line length in a GEA test it is after all a estimate and one that I have found to go by what the current sync is at the time of the test, I have seen it myself in GEA tests where it would give different results, I know 100% that my line is 485m as A Tier 2 openreach enginner showed me the route on his laptop with the length on it, yet i have had GEA tests say it was over 620m and another say 580m all based on when speed had dropped and the GEA test run, so unless Fibre cabs grow legs and move about I would take the results with a huge grain of salt.   

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Re: Possible DLM resetted as my line are now banded

IIf that's the case should we believe anything that the gea test says then if it can't get a simple line length correct ? In my eyes bt need to upgrade and pretty fast my line still drops so all the engineers I've had have done absolutely jack
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Re: Possible DLM resetted as my line are now banded

I was very lucky to be at home because I was about to go out for the day.

Glad to hear you were in when they arrived.

 

PN never informed me of an engineer was booked in, no ones told me this. He just come to my property by surprise, never expecting any engineer today because PN sent off to BTWholesale yesterday as a fault ref.

We weren't advised of this either but on occasion when an engineer is out on the job if they feel they need access to a customers property for further investigation they'd generally try to contact the customer instead of passing the job back to us to book an appointment as that can just delay things.

 

But, I just glad it all went ok today this morning after engineer has resetted DLM to open profile without g.inp for first two days.

Fingers crossed g.INP returns.

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Re: Possible DLM resetted as my line are now banded

@Gandalf can you please send me ticket of the engineer note of what he does say when he let yesterday. Thanks.

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Re: Possible DLM resetted as my line are now banded

@goldenfibre

 

I've sent the ticket on the account back with the engineer checklist, unfortunately the information is a little thin on the ground. I contacted BTW to see if they had anything further but they don't have anything other than the engineer resolved the impairment fault. I also retested the service and no impairment was showing on the GEA test either.   

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Re: Possible DLM resetted as my line are now banded

@JOLO I was little surprise to read the engineer note. No metion of DLM resetted on his note. Also was surprise nothing much from BTWholesale either after the GEA Test has failed few days ago. But thanks anyway. Will wait for DLM to applied G.INP next few days.

My stats is still ongoing for 1 days and 150 minutes:

adsl info --stats

adsl: ADSL driver and PHY status

Status: Showtime

Last Retrain Reason:    0

Last initialization procedure status:   0

Max:    Upstream rate = 26475 Kbps, Downstream rate = 80852 Kbps

Bearer: 0, Upstream rate = 19999 Kbps, Downstream rate = 67526 Kbps



Link Power State:       L0

Mode:                   VDSL2 Annex B

VDSL2 Profile:          Profile 17a

TPS-TC:                 PTM Mode(0x0)

Trellis:                U:ON /D:ON

Line Status:            No Defect

Training Status:        Showtime

                Down            Up

SNR (dB):        6.2             15.1

Attn(dB):        12.0            0.0

Pwr(dBm):        12.5            0.9

Bearer 0 INP: 3.00 0.00 INPRein: 0.00 0.00 delay: 8 0 PER: 1.57 3.98 OR: 121.96 64.22 AgR: 67647.75 20063.54 Bitswap: 19/19 14/14

 

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Re: Possible DLM resetted as my line are now banded

No worries.
Let us know how you get on.

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Re: Possible DLM resetted as my line are now banded

@Gandalf

 

Updated: DLM has resync @ 01:42 and enabled G.INP on downstream. Smiley

DSLAM type / SW version:   BDCM:0xa48c (164.140) / v0xa48c
Modem/router firmware:     AnnexA version - A2pv6F039g1.d24m
DSL mode:                  VDSL2 Profile 17a
Status:                    Showtime
Uptime:                     0 hour 8 min 43 sec
Resyncs:                   1
         
            Downstream   Upstream
Line attenuation (dB):     12.0      0.0
Signal attenuation (dB):   Not available on VDSL2      
Connection speed (kbps):   78044      19999
SNR margin (dB):           6.4      15.1
Power (dBm):               12.5      1.3
Interleave depth:          8      1
INP:                       49.00      0
G.INP:                     Enabled      Not enabled
Vectoring status:          5 (VECT_UNCONFIGURED)      

                          Bearer 0

INP:            49.00           0.00

INPRein:        0.00            0.00

delay:          0               0

PER:            0.00            3.98

OR:             0.01            64.22

AgR:            78124.49        20063.54



                        Bearer 1

INP:            4.00            0.00

INPRein:        4.00            0.00

delay:          3               0

PER:            16.06           0.01

OR:             95.62           0.01

AgR:            95.62   0.01



Bitswap:        2/2             1/1