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Odd TBB test ?

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Re: Odd TBB test ?

Checkout me-ping, today I've had the fastest internet AnD the best Latency as well.

Nice to see yours is sloping along!

 

Here's mine.... mix 'n' match eh!

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Re: Odd TBB test ?

Lol, so TBB "secret" tcp latency measure (not ping) doesn't always work well either 🙂

I found my old opera url, Nice upgrade from Plusnet there 🙂

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results.html?id=1486253940268212655

 

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Re: Odd TBB test ?

slight drop again http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results.html?id=149112703184251132558

gateway psb-bng02.

I just dont know why i cannot keep a stable speed

 

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Re: Odd TBB test ?

It's some kind of bottle neck somewhere, data collection, traffic shaping ?

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Re: Odd TBB test ?


@rongtw wrote:

I just dont know why i cannot keep a stable speed


Ditto Sad

Tried FF in safe mode, to rule out any extensions, themes or hardware acceleration.

Ethernet, BTw tester
Download Speed (Mbps): 10.34
Upload Speed (Mbps): 1.39
Ping Latency(ms): 165.50

Ethernet, TBB tester
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results.html?id=1491003819878230555
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results.html?id=1491006871871370355

 

Due to the other BTw speed test thread, I installed Opera late last night/early am.
(couldn't get Opera to run the BTw site, so tried with the TBB test - https://labs.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/ )


Opera - latency 38ms - http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results.html?id=1491124877510372655
IE 11 - latency 39ms - http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results.html?id=1491124960578149355
FF 52 - latency 96ms - http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results.html?id=1491125160279496455

Repeated
Opera - latency 46ms - http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results.html?id=1491125212467179755
IE 11 - latency 46ms - http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results.html?id=1491125257733701055
FF 52 - latency 125ms - http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results.html?id=1491125300324013255

 

As I've tried to point out on this and that other thread, my speed can be below the lower speed estimate for my connection:

5. DSL uptime: 1 days, 14:12:50
6. Data rate: 2001 / 23456
7. Maximum data rate: 2486 / 23156
8. Noise margin: 7.5 / 6.3
9. Line attenuation: 32.2 / 27.5
10. Signal attenuation: 32.2 / 23.9

 

(lower estimate is 24.1Mb/s)

 

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Re: Odd TBB test ?

Normal tester - https://labs.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/
Microsoft Security Essentials real-time protection on:
Opera - http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results.html?id=1491127276457098855
IE 11 - http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results.html?id=1491127326449761555
FF 52 - http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results.html?id=1491127384757658155

MSE with real-time protection off:
Opera - http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results.html?id=1491127498484400055
IE 11 - http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results.html?id=1491127549441137555
FF 52 - http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results.html?id=1491127596362546155


TBB alternative tester - http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/speedtest2.html

RTP on:
Opera - http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results.html?id=1491133513535044838
note the following taken from TBB:

Opera TBB warning RTP on.JPG


IE 11 - http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results.html?id=1491133563076076927
note the following taken from TBB:

IE 11 RTP on.JPG


FF 52 - http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results.html?id=149113362523928557402
note the following taken from TBB:

FF RTP on.JPG

(this one ^ is a bit of a concern....?)

 

RTP off:
Opera - http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results.html?id=149113398520990714513
note the following taken from TBB:

Opera TBB warning RTP off.JPG


IE 11 - http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results.html?id=149113410315530592065
note the following taken from TBB:

IE 11 RTP off.JPG


FF 52 - http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results.html?id=149113434505114059903
note the following taken from TBB:

FF RTP off.JPG

(this one ^ is a bit of a concern, though might be caused by MSE RTP being off....?)

 

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well i thought i would check my router as i can see real time traffic on my Asus,, Doing various things  but no way do i max my connection

 

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http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results.html?id=149124378511131368434   gateway psb-bng02.

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Re: Odd TBB test ?

Are you getting a dip using iperf3 ?

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Like this....

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/button/1491245734496528455.png

iperf3 -c bouygues.testdebit.info -p 5200 -R
Connecting to host bouygues.testdebit.info, port 5200
Reverse mode, remote host bouygues.testdebit.info is sending
[ 4] local xx.xx.xx.xx port 24352 connected to 89.84.127.53 port 5200
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth
[ 4] 0.00-1.00 sec 1.31 MBytes 11.0 Mbits/sec
[ 4] 1.00-2.00 sec 4.03 MBytes 33.8 Mbits/sec
[ 4] 2.00-3.00 sec 4.21 MBytes 35.3 Mbits/sec
[ 4] 3.00-4.00 sec 4.43 MBytes 37.2 Mbits/sec
[ 4] 4.00-5.00 sec 3.93 MBytes 33.0 Mbits/sec
[ 4] 5.00-6.00 sec 4.29 MBytes 36.0 Mbits/sec
[ 4] 6.00-7.00 sec 4.43 MBytes 37.2 Mbits/sec
[ 4] 7.00-8.00 sec 4.43 MBytes 37.2 Mbits/sec
[ 4] 8.00-9.00 sec 4.35 MBytes 36.5 Mbits/sec
[ 4] 9.00-10.00 sec 4.31 MBytes 36.2 Mbits/sec
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth Retr
[ 4] 0.00-10.00 sec 42.2 MBytes 35.4 Mbits/sec 9 sender
[ 4] 0.00-10.00 sec 40.5 MBytes 34.0 Mbits/sec receiver

iperf Done.

And This.....
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/button/1491245876781440055.png

iperf3 -c bouygues.testdebit.info -p 5200 -R
Connecting to host bouygues.testdebit.info, port 5200
Reverse mode, remote host bouygues.testdebit.info is sending
[ 4] local xx.xx.xx.xx port 22302 connected to 89.84.127.53 port 5200
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth
[ 4] 0.00-1.00 sec 650 KBytes 5.32 Mbits/sec
[ 4] 1.00-2.00 sec 1.27 MBytes 10.6 Mbits/sec
[ 4] 2.00-3.00 sec 2.21 MBytes 18.6 Mbits/sec
[ 4] 3.00-4.00 sec 3.36 MBytes 28.2 Mbits/sec
[ 4] 4.00-5.00 sec 3.66 MBytes 30.7 Mbits/sec
[ 4] 5.00-6.00 sec 3.82 MBytes 32.0 Mbits/sec
[ 4] 6.00-7.00 sec 3.84 MBytes 32.2 Mbits/sec
[ 4] 7.00-8.00 sec 3.85 MBytes 32.3 Mbits/sec
[ 4] 8.00-9.00 sec 3.84 MBytes 32.2 Mbits/sec
[ 4] 9.00-10.00 sec 3.85 MBytes 32.3 Mbits/sec
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth Retr
[ 4] 0.00-10.00 sec 31.5 MBytes 26.4 Mbits/sec 15 sender
[ 4] 0.00-10.00 sec 30.6 MBytes 25.7 Mbits/sec receiver

iperf Done.

I'm looking at the single thread part of the test (Downstream) with iperf3.

 

I've used various bits of kit with the same results, so we can rule out equipment.

An explanation on this would be nice so I can move forward and back into my cave!

WHY ?

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Re: Odd TBB test ?

If it's on - do you get the same with your QOS turned off?

 

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Yeah, same with traffic shaping off, bit faster/smoother test wise without the queues as expected!

 

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Hmm, it is strange. Your iperf test seems to show a sane amount of loss, though it's a shame debug doesn't show per second for -R like it will for upload.

I can sometimes get a bit of iperf3 ramp up from that host - but not like yours, more like 58, 60, 62, 62 ... till end at worst.

As Plusnet downstream QOS works for me, I only do upstream, and I've  never seen single threaded ramp up on TBB.

 

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how many retries do you get though - if any, either Up or Down ?

I would expect to have next to none.

This is a constant for me at any time of the day/night, tbh your the first person that has given a view from a good connection so thanks for that.

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@legume

Here is a graph of what my connection is like with QOS enabled using TBB as the monitor, take note of the big Orange spike which is a speed test with QOS off for a moment. just thought you might be interested

 

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