G.INP

[#1]

Quote from: elfish

CPE is a Fritz!Box 3790 7390?, it certainly supports G.INP in both directions as other members have had it working, but as you say, the G.INP so called 'fix' is being rolled out.

Mine still showing G.INP both up and down, I'd hate to lose it on the upstream as this is where I've previously had a lot of ES.

[#2]

@w23 your line stats look very similar to mine... apart from my loss of G.INP on upstream, apparently this is what is being rolled out as a "fix" by Openreach...and like you said I have now got errors on my upstream though with luck DLM won't decide I need interleaving 

[#3]

elfish ditch the friztbox as a modem, how do you know its compatible?

[#4]

@chrcoluk, well, mine is!

Quote from: w23

Mine still showing G.INP both up and down,

[#5]

That's Nice! Hope it lasts! 

[#6]

Quote from: elfish

DLM has decided to apply interleaving to both up and down streams! And sync speed both up and down have dropped.  What a joke. Latency times are now around 25ms.

Are you using my line @elfish lmfao.......exactly the same as mine has gone...

[#7]

w23 same model?
Personally given all the issues people are having, I wouldnt use anything but a broadcom device as my modem.

[#8]

Quote from: w23

Quote from: elfish CPE is a Fritz!Box 3790 7390?, it certainly supports G.INP in both directions as other members have had it working, but as you say, the G.INP so called 'fix' is being rolled out. Mine still showing G.INP both up and down, I'd hate to lose it on the upstream as this is where I've previously had a lot of ES.

Yeah, I meant 7390. 
That's interesting, your DS 'current throughput' is higher than your DS 'attainable data rate'.
Is this a recent pic? I see that you are using the Annex B setting now?

[#9]

also do you have matching firmware versions?

[#10]

Quote from: elfish

but if you read back a page or two, kitz says that lines enabled after a certain date may not feature G.INP at all. My VDSL2 service has only recently been enabled (around 1 month now).

I'm in the same boat as you, only had VDSL2 recently. This better not be the case
Currently have Interleaving on downstream giving an added glorious 8ms delay (fantastic for gaming /s)
Thankfully the upstream is on fastpath but it would be seriously nice to have G.INP on the downstream to get that 8ms of delay off the line.
8ms isn't a big hit but it's just so annoying to know there's something out there that does the same job without the delay.

[#11]

Lines enabled or reset after the last week of March wont have MkI G.INP applied. 
However I fully expect those lines to catch up and have retransmission applied on the downstream during the roll out of 'the fix'.  So far about 50% of Huawei lines have been done.

[#12]

Quote from: elfish

Is this a recent pic? I see that you are using the Annex B setting now?

Yes, took the screenshot just before posting, chnaged to Annex B setting 'just in case' as you posted that it appeared to reduce ES

Quote from: chrcoluk

w23 same model?

Yes.

Quote from: chrcoluk

also do you have matching firmware versions?

Mine's on the current (non-beta) Fritz!OS 06.20, @elfish may be using the slightly later beta IIRC but I can't see them removing support for something that works.

Quote from: elfish

That's interesting, your DS 'current throughput' is higher than your DS 'attainable data rate'.

I believe it's been like that since G.INP was applied.

[#13]

Quote from: elfish

That's interesting, your DS 'current throughput' is higher than your DS 'attainable data rate'.

It's seems that with G.INP enabled it syncs it higher than it seem to think attainable... mine sync at 67000 but varies between 65-66000 attainable

[#14]

My DS sync is higher than the MAX attainable, but G.IMP is not enabled on my line yet

Max: Upstream rate = 30310 Kbps, Downstream rate = 76412 Kbps
Bearer: 0, Upstream rate = 19999 Kbps, Downstream rate = 78013 Kbps
Link Power State: L0
Mode: VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL2 Profile: Profile 17a
TPS-TC: PTM Mode(0x0)
Trellis: U:ON /D:ON
Line Status: No Defect
Training Status: Showtime
Down Up
SNR (dB): 5.5 14.6
Attn(dB): 11.9 0.0
Pwr(dBm): 13.8 1.2
VDSL2 framing
Bearer 0
MSGc: 18 26
B: 239 237
M: 1 1
T: 23 42
R: 0 16
S: 0.0979 0.3781
L: 19608 5374
D: 1 1
I: 240 127
N: 240 254
Counters
Bearer 0
OHF: 224053180 2729411
OHFErr: 2112 253
RS: 0 3116806
RSCorr: 0 6563
RSUnCorr: 0 0
Bearer 0
HEC: 558 0
OCD: 12 0
LCD: 12 0
Total Cells: 1138188734 0
Data Cells: 195615908 0
Drop Cells: 0
Bit Errors: 0 0

[#15]

@supernova1: your attainable is based on an ideal snr of 6db, but your actual snr is 5.5 which is lower than the ideal.
This means you get a slightly faster speed than expected. I'm in the same boat as you, and I don't have G.INP either.
I've yet to see this happen where the actual snr is higher than 6.5.