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Re: ECI Cabinets

Thanks so much for this @bobpullen 

 

I'm on a short ~149m line (an Openreach engineer recently helped my line's cable fill problem but there's worked booked for the ports on the cabinet in general) but my line speed's increased by ~4Mbps and ping speeds reduced from ~12ms to 9.

 

Thanks for asking us, and let's hope this trail works well so everyone (including us, as we'll lose it too if it fails) can get it this time!

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Re: ECI Cabinets

Overnight changes :

Stats recorded 16 Mar 2020 23:47:31

DSLAM type / SW version: IFTN:0xb206 (178.6) / v0xb206
Modem/router firmware: AnnexA version - A2pv6F039t.d26d
DSL mode: VDSL2 Profile 17a
Status: Showtime
Uptime: 9 days 13 hours 7 min 26 sec
Resyncs: 0 (since 11 Mar 2020 23:40:25)

Downstream Upstream
Line attenuation (dB): 15.4 0.0
Signal attenuation (dB): Not available on VDSL2
Connection speed (kbps): 62218 19997
SNR margin (dB): 5.8 6.1
Power (dBm): 6.8 6.8
Interleave depth: 1 1
INP: 0 0
G.INP: Not enabled Not enabled
Vectoring status: 5 (VECT_UNCONFIGURED)

RSCorr/RS (%): N/A 0.0600
RSUnCorr/RS (%): N/A 0.0000
ES/hour: 6.43 0.25

Stats recorded 17 Mar 2020 07:48:31

DSLAM type / SW version: IFTN:0xb206 (178.6) / v0xb206
Modem/router firmware: AnnexA version - A2pv6F039t.d26d
DSL mode: VDSL2 Profile 17a
Status: Showtime
Uptime: 5 hours 5 min 3 sec
Resyncs: 1 (since 11 Mar 2020 23:40:25)

Downstream Upstream
Line attenuation (dB): 15.4 0.0
Signal attenuation (dB): Not available on VDSL2
Connection speed (kbps): 63832 19917
SNR margin (dB): 6.4 6.0
Power (dBm): 6.8 6.7
Interleave depth: 1 1
INP: 48.00 0
G.INP: Enabled Not enabled
Vectoring status: 5 (VECT_UNCONFIGURED)

RSCorr/RS (%): 0.0001 0.0004
RSUnCorr/RS (%): 0.0000 0.0000
ES/hour: 2.43 0.13

Current line stats can be seen herewww.gwise.uk 

 

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Re: ECI Cabinets

@dave501 

Remember that this is an OpenReach Trial so it could be withdrawn at any time if OR see problems.

 

According to the original news article it's thought the Trial is running until around August.

 

Brian

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Re: ECI Cabinets

Even if @dave501 wasn’t on the trial his line can achieve more on the 80/20 profile so he won’t lose out if the trial ends. 😁
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Re: ECI Cabinets

Just done a little reading about G.INP 

 

From Kitz

After a DLM reset the initial profile is: -

       Downstream: Interleaving (& INP) Low.  Upstream: Interleaving Off.

If the DLM identifies that the line can support Retransmission, then ReTx Low will be automatically  applied to the downstream after a couple of days.

 

Does that suggest that if our lines are capable, we may see even more speed after a couple of days? 

 

Delighted to get around 7Mbps already! 

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Re: ECI Cabinets

@Bp1000    For those of us on the trial who were previously not interleaved the usual rules may not apply.
Some of us appear to have completely skipped that step which normally occurs after a reset and gone straight on G.INP.

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Re: ECI Cabinets

It's a shame I'm away until tomorrow PM and will only be able to share my results fully then.

I can see on my nightly speed test it has increased 3~4 mb - was on fast path, so will be interesting to see what's happened when I get back 👍🏻
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Re: ECI Cabinets

@bobpullen   Thank you so much.

 

My line resync'd at 1am.    The line was not interleaved but I had an immediate increase of 2Mbps.    Those lines which were previously interleaved should benefit even further from retransmission.

 

My stats taken 1 hour before

This information shows the latest ONGOING stats obtained at 00:00 on 17/03/2020


Downstream      Upstream                                        Downstream      Upstream

 
            Sync (kbps)    66037         20000                           Interleaving          1             1
 Attainable rate (kbps)    66100         25329                                    INP       0.00          0.00
       Attenuation (dB)      0.0           0.0
        SNR Margin (dB)      6.3           9.2
           Power (dBmV)      6.4           6.3                            SES (total)        154             0
RSUnCorr errors (delta)        0             0                RSUnCorr errors (total)          0             0
Errored seconds (delta)        0             0                Errored seconds (total)       2595          1441
       Bitswaps (delta)        0             0                       Bitswaps (total)       3608            92
     CRC errors (delta)        0             0                     CRC errors (total)      81819          1557
     HEC errors (delta)        0             0                     HEC errors (total)      31022             0
     FEC errors (delta)        0             0                     FEC errors (total)          0         16808
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Stats immediately after resync

=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~= Plink log 2020.03.17 01:04:06 =~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=

adsl info --stats
adsl: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Last Retrain Reason:    1
Last initialization procedure status:   0
Max:    Upstream rate = 25163 Kbps, Downstream rate = 67547 Kbps
Bearer: 0, Upstream rate = 20000 Kbps, Downstream rate = 68019 Kbps
Bearer: 1, Upstream rate = 0 Kbps, Downstream rate = 0 Kbps
Link Power State:       L0
Mode:                   VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL2 Profile:          Profile 17a
TPS-TC:                 PTM Mode
Trellis:                U:ON /D:ON
Line Status:            No Defect
Training Status:        Showtime
                Down            Up
SNR (dB):        6.3             9.3
Attn(dB):        0.0             0.0
Pwr(dBm):        6.6             6.6

                        VDSL2 framing
                        Bearer 0
MSGc:           -6              150
B:              243             236
M:              1               1
T:              0               5
R:              6               16
S:              0.1142          0.3771
L:              17509           5410
D:              1               1
I:              250             255
N:              250             255
Q:              8               0
V:              0               0

 

I was interested to see how retransmission would deal with my daily one minute spike of SHINE which usually can cause hundreds of thousands of CRCs  during that short time span.   Line is perfectly fine for the other 23hr&59mins.   Retransmission is known to not be very effective for SHINE, but it seems to have done ok and worked as it should by swapping over to use Error Correction (FEC) for that short period.  

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Re: ECI Cabinets

.@bobpullen     My throughput speed doesn't seem to have changed to reflect the increase in sync.    I'm on a static IP if that makes any difference.

I can't seem to get my IP profile from BTw to check from here.   A test I ran at the w/e said it was 63.92 Mbps.

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Re: ECI Cabinets

Sorry for another post, but I don't seem to be able to append to the one above.  

Finally managed to get the BTw test to run (see attachment).    New IPprofile should be 65.77Mbps, but I'm still seeing speeds indicative of my old profile and line speed.   
 
Can someone from Plusnet check my PN profile please.

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Re: ECI Cabinets

Hi PN

 

My line sync has changed last night. Getting extra 3Meg as BTw IP jump to 64.16Mbps but PN IP is 61.4Mbps.

 

Thanks

 

M.R.

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Re: ECI Cabinets

Good to see all ECI cabinets got upgraded to extra speed last night - all credit to

 

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Re: ECI Cabinets


@kitz wrote:

@Bp1000    For those of us on the trial who were previously not interleaved the usual rules may not apply.
Some of us appear to have completely skipped that step which normally occurs after a reset and gone straight on G.INP.


Ah ok that makes sense. 

 

I was interleaved, the speed bump I got is exactly / very similar to what I get without interleaving (I use to be on Fast path, years ago, but recently I've been interleaved probably due to crosstalk). I assumed G.INP just allowed a line to operate on fast path which would normally be interleaved without it. 

If I gain even more speed than v.happy indeed. But equally so, if I stays on Fast Path now G.INP is sorted the stability out. 

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Re: ECI Cabinets

Hey guys I had a re-sync around 1am, gained around 2Mb went from 52.4Mb to 54.8, I have the Hub-One so the stats are very limited with no indication that G.INP is enabled and if so whether it's at low or high levels, Maybe Bob can get access and post what it's currently set to, will be interesting to see if any further increases happen.

 

1. Product name: Plusnet Hub
   
3. Firmware version: Software version 4.7.5.1.83.8.263 Last updated 30/03/19
4. Board version: Plusnet Hub One
5. DSL uptime: 0 days, 16:17:31
6. Data rate: 12597 / 54866
7. Maximum data rate: 12892 / 54672
8. Noise margin: 6.3 / 5.9
9. Line attenuation: 26.2 / 21.3
10. Signal attenuation: 26.1 / 21.0
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Re: ECI Cabinets

As some of you seem to have noticed, lines were loaded onto the trial earlier in the week.

@chubsta wrote:
is there a list of accounts that have been forwarded from this thread, or will it be randomly selected numbers? only asking because i was one of the early ones to respond in the thread Grin

Everyone who registered interest (before cut-off) was included. About 19 of you in total.

@FrazUK wrote:

I now have the usual FECS burst on connection which was  0 / 111978 when I resynced 2 hours ago and is now 0 / 111979 so pretty much no errors happening on the line anymore...

Be mindful that kit with Intel chipsets will not register errors associated with retransmission/G.INP as FEC's. They're counted elsewhere and I don't think the information is exposed via the GUI.

@chrislacey wrote:

i wil however have to ask in a separate thread for an ip profile reset as my download speed always sticks, i think its because im on a static ip.

That's been sorted for you. You'll need to disconnect/reconnect to realise the benefit.

@kitz wrote:

Can someone from Plusnet check my PN profile please.

Corrected. Again, you will need to disconnect/reconnect the PPP session.

@Terranova667 wrote:

Maybe Bob can get access and post what it's currently set to...

The test suite suggests there's no error protection on either your upstream or downstream at the moment, however I believe the data is 'stale' and not necessarily realtime.

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