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Any options for retaining upload speeds

djbenson
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Any options for retaining upload speeds

I've just come to the end of my 18 month contract with Plus.net and whilst I'd heard of the cut in upload speed, I hadn't considered the implications to me until now. I have a static IP with Plus.net and use upload bandwidth a bit when I'm working away from home to VPN into the house and stream video etc. A cut to 2mb is a killer blow for me so I wanted to know if there are any options at all or if I just have to accept it and leave (as staying isn't an option if the upload speed does get cut).

 

I noticed on the forums there was talk of a 52/10 product (apparently those on 38 were migrated to it in August) - have I misunderstood that, as I am on the 38 product and that's advertised as 38/2?

 

 

Is it not possible to be provisioned (with the associated costs) onto a higher tier than your line supports? i.e. if I was on the 76/20 product then I would at least keep the upload speed I have now.

 

What about just making changes to my existing services to cut costs? If I dropped the call package and paid 12 months line rental, that to me is a zero change to my broadband service so I should be able to stay on the old 38 product until it is forcibly removed, right?

 

Any other options?

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djbenson
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Re: Any options for retaining upload speeds

 

  Receive Direction Send Direction
Max. DSLAM throughput kbit/s 80000 20000
Min. DSLAM throughput kbit/s 128 128
Attainable throughput kbit/s 37249 4145
Current throughput kbit/s 36134 4123

 

In the above (from the DSL stats of my Fritz!Box) does the 80/20 relate to the maximum the equipment in the cab supports or is that the product I am provisioned on? When I had a fault recently, the OR engineer swore blind I was on the 80/20 profile but I know I'm paying for the 38mb package.

 

Also, those speeds are pretty close to the threshold of the maximum for the 38 product, would I likely see any increase if I moved to the 76mb one (do those stats support a case to be moved onto it or not I guess is what I'm asking)?

MattyC
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Re: Any options for retaining upload speeds

Hi there,

From taking a look, I believe that you should actually be on the 55/10 product anyway. With that in mind, I'll place an order to get you provisioned correctly. This means that your upload should perform to it's maximum capabilities.

Matty

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djbenson
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Re: Any options for retaining upload speeds

Mmm OK so how does that affect retentions then? If I should be on 55/10 does that mean if I take out a new contract it will be on the 55/10 product and as such no impact on my speeds?

 

I guess then that the 38/2 product is for new customers? Or does it affect contract renewals too (if I'm understanding correctly, if I renew my contract I will not see a drop from 55/10 to 38/2)?

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Re: Any options for retaining upload speeds


djbenson wrote:

I noticed on the forums there was talk of a 52/10 product (apparently those on 38 were migrated to it in August) - have I misunderstood that, as I am on the 38 product and that's advertised as 38/2?

That was for customers on a 40/20 product only ( provisioned on 80/20) who where then changed to a 55/10 product. PN do not sell this product 

Is it not possible to be provisioned (with the associated costs) onto a higher tier than your line supports? i.e. if I was on the 76/20 product then I would at least keep the upload speed I have now.

 If your line will not support higher than 40mb , PN will not provision you on a higher speed product 

Any other options?


      Yes , another ISP if you want the 40/10 product

Regards
Mike 

Moderator's note by Mike (Mav): Quote fixed.

Mike
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Re: Any options for retaining upload speeds

So if your line only supports 40/20 PN will provision you on 55/10?

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Re: Any options for retaining upload speeds

Customers provisioned on a 40/20 profile should have been shifted to 55/10 back in August.

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djbenson
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Re: Any options for retaining upload speeds

@MattyC can you confirm what will happen if I renew my contract, will I renew on the 55/10 product or will I be shunted back to the 38/2?

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Re: Any options for retaining upload speeds

Recontracting will move you back down to 38/2 on the basis of a new contract. Recontracting should keep you on 55/10, it's an open problem we have at the moment and are actively investigating. Be happy to see if there's a way I can get round getting you onto Fibre Extra, however it requires a bit of a workaround, hence it being unavailable when speaking with Customer Options.

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djbenson
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Re: Any options for retaining upload speeds

That would be really good - I don't particularly want to leave Plusnet but it feels a bit like my hands are tied at the moment.

djbenson
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Re: Any options for retaining upload speeds

That being said, if you refer to @HarryB's post in this thread: https://community.plus.net/t5/Fibre-Broadband/Another-one-not-happy-about-the-cut-in-upload-to-2Mbps... it says "I don't believe the speed should have changed when renewing your contract, therefore I will make sure you're put back on 55/10 provisioned speeds." - this seems to contradict what you said above?

 

The poster in that thread renewed their contract and got downgraded until HarryB stepped in and got their package re-upgraded.

 

Very confusing!

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Re: Any options for retaining upload speeds


MattyC wrote:

Recontracting will move you back down to 38/2 on the basis of a new contract.


How does that work for those currently on 55/10 at the end of their contract?

Re-contract and take a speed hit or HuhHuh

I must have been really bad in a previous life as this was my 3rd ISP in a row that used lithium.
Now you're stuck with me because my new ISP doesn't run a forum Cheesy
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Re: Any options for retaining upload speeds

Re-contracting is optional isn't it?

Do nothing and stay on 55/10 and pay the same rates.

Also has the advantage that you can leave immediately if you see a better offer.

2Mbits is only 256KBytes/sec - pathetic.

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Re: Any options for retaining upload speeds

Ok, disregard my response there for now. I'm just going to get further clarification.

 

My apologies, I've updated my comment.

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Re: Any options for retaining upload speeds

I am not convinced that you will see any increase in speed.

Max. DSLAM throughput kbit/s 80000 20000 this is manually entered into the fritzbox in the connection settings and not what it is seeing from the cabinet.