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[PAYH] Applications out of date

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[PAYH] Applications out of date

SMF: Version available through Plesk is 1.1.2, current SMF release is 1.1.7
Mambo: Version available through Plesk 4.6.0, current Mambo release is 4.6.5
Any plans to bring these up to date?
Edit:
Mantis: Plesk 1.1.1, current 1.1.4
Coppermine: Plesk 1.3.3 (and gives a load of errors if you select it), current 1.4.19
Gallery: Plesk 2.2, current 2.3
xoops: Plesk 2.2, current 2.3.1
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Re: [PAYH] Applications out of date

OK, let me ask what appears will be a far simpler question to answer: which applications are up to date?
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Re: [PAYH] Applications out of date

I have found the same issue with another host I use with PLESK,
Some of their applications are hopeless out of date. And others the developers have given up years ago due to huge security holes, but they are still available.
But loss of control is the cost of having easy installation it seams  Sad
Ianwild
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Re: [PAYH] Applications out of date

This will always be a bit of an issue with the way the likes of Plesk and Cpanel (via Fantastico) bundle up and release these scripts. It is a compromise where people use these and I'd agree that it could be better, although there seems to have been some improvements in closeness to the latest versions of many of the apps, compared to where they were a few months ago. Hopefully it will keep getting better. We will keep these versions up to date with those supplied by Plesk certainly, but there isn't really a lot more than that we can do.
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Re: [PAYH] Applications out of date

Just picking one example: Coppermine 1.3.3 was released 2005-04-20. From SourceForge:
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Posted By: gaugau
Date: 2005-09-25 16:40
Summary: Maintenance release: cpg1.3.5 fixes XSS vulnerability
A XSS vulnerability has been found in the language selector. Everybody who runs coppermine (any version older than cpg1.3.5) will have to apply this security fix as soon as possible.
We have released a new package of the stable branch (cpg1.3.x) named "cpg1.3.5" that contains the above mentioned fix, plus some fixes of minor issues.

So three years on Plesk still hasn't updated with a security fix, never mind updating to the 1.4 branch!
See https://sourceforge.net/export/rss2_projnews.php?group_id=89658&rss_fulltext=1 for a list of all the releases Plesk have ignored. When it is that far out of date, surely it would be better to pull it?
Edit: Or at least highlight that the user should consider downloading the current version themselves rather than use the bundled version?
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Re: [PAYH] Applications out of date

Hi
The version we offer in the application vault is Coppermine v1.4.16
We updated the applications last week
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Re: [PAYH] Applications out of date

Just gone back to check and yes that version is at the bottom of the page. So why is 1.3.3 still shown at the top of the page?
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Re: [PAYH] Applications out of date

Top of the page where sorry?
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Here:
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Re: [PAYH] Applications out of date

Yup!  But in that screenshot, the third entry is Coppermine 1.4.16 as Kev suggests?
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Re: [PAYH] Applications out of date

See Reply #6
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Re: [PAYH] Applications out of date

Quote from: jelv
Just gone back to check and yes that version is at the bottom of the page. So why is 1.3.3 still shown at the top of the page?

Numerical order. Is this important? I don't think there are many (if any) other apps with multiple versions in the vault, so you won't be trawling through a large list of builds.
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Re: [PAYH] Applications out of date

But why are you still offering 1.3.3 at all when it has security issues?
Unless a build is very new and/or has issues running on PAYH, I can't see any reason to offer outdated versions. You should be encouraging people to keep up to date.
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Re: [PAYH] Applications out of date

Please note we are only just completing a round of upgrades (still ongoing). According to my packages list the old coppermine version should not be there in this latest build, so I will look into manually removing it from your vhost. I may also retrospectively go through the entire list and remove some other applications. The priority right now has been to purchase this additional functionality and install it as intended by the manufacturer.
Be aware that application vault packages will pretty much continually be slightly behind the latest release. The reason for this is that each software release has to be fully tested (centrally) then converted into a compatible Plesk based package which can be included on (all) servers as an auto-update via appvault. The aim is a convenient installation and yes after this you would be expected to keep yourself up-to-date with the latest security patches.
[Moderator's note by Jonathan (chillypenguin):  Full quote of preceding post removed, as per Forum Rules :mand: ]
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Re: [PAYH] Applications out of date

For what it's worth, Joomla is out of date too (1.5.1) they have just issued 1.5.8 but to be honest it's quite simple to upload and untar Joomla without the app vauilt version documented elsewhere in this forum.