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Strange symbols on index page ?

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Strange symbols on index page ?

Can anyone identify these symbols that have appeared at the beginning of my index page--I know i didn't put them there because I can't reproduce them !
they are 4 and they are:
an i with 2 dots above it
2 >> morethan signs?
and ? but upside down.
or you'll see what i mean by going here; www.steveniblock.co.uk and view the source code.
thanks
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Strange symbols on index page ?

I god honest can't see them in the source code.

Have you tried clearning your Internet Cache, then downloading again to check?
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Strange symbols on index page ?

I've just cleared my temporary internet files and its still there-----don't know why you can't see it ??
i'll check it out from my work computer on wed.
thanks
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Strange symbols on index page ?

Just had a look at my site with firefox and the symbols have gone.
seems they only appear when using internt explorer. strange :?
lowry
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Registered: 08-04-2007

Strange symbols on index page ?

I can't see any strange symbols using Internet Explorer or Firefox. However, if it is only acting up in IE and Firefox is fine (firefox is more standards compliant) it could be that Internet Explorer is misinterpreting your HTML code.

matt Wink
Community Veteran
Posts: 14,469
Registered: 30-07-2007

Strange symbols on index page ?

Are you running ZoneAlarm software firewall. And if so, do you have ad blocking and cookie control enabled under privacy. If so, disable both and see if the problem goes away. Ad blocking is known to insert funny chracters on websites in it's atempt to block ad banners but it fails miserably.
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Strange symbols on index page ?

its showing some code as the alt symbols such as ® and Þ , this is due to the code in IE being read wrong and getting corrupted, just as if you open an exe file into notepad you get a tone of crap, check to see if all the tags are complete and re upload al your files
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Strange symbols on index page ?

"its showing some code" does this mean that you can see it buzzons ?
I've checked the code and all seems ok.

peter----yes i do run zone alarm---the free version which does not have the privacy features.

it's only the index page that is affected, i have put some javascript on to it but i tried it on another page with no adverse effects.
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Registered: 10-04-2007

Strange symbols on index page ?

Perhaps I'm not looking hard enough but I can't see any strange symbols on the home page.

Using IE6 from my Windows 98 machine now but I still couldn't see them from a Win XP machine earlier.
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Strange symbols on index page ?

was thinking it might just be win 98 that produces the symbols and the reason others can't see it. but not so ......thanks peter.
it's in the top left corner of the page before any html, however it doesn't affect the page in anyway.
i'll ask around at work tomorrow.
suppose i could delete them and see what happens !

 here they are----copied from notepad
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Posts: 14,469
Registered: 30-07-2007

Strange symbols on index page ?

Can you look at the source code of the page when you see the funny chars then post the first 20 or so lines so we can see what the HTML looks like.

To get the source code, bring up the page with the error on it then click on view -> source and it will be shown in notepag, then just copy/paste into a post here.
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Strange symbols on index page ?

see last post for the copied symbols.
it is only on the source code they are visible not on my homepage.
anywau here's some code from it.


<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/loose.dtd">
<html><!-- Creator:HomePageWizard Filename:index -->

<head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><meta name="description" content="Scottish contemporary sculptor working in bronze, cast iron, terracotta, resin, plaster polymer"><meta name="keywords" content="Bronze sculpture, Scottish artist, Sculpture, Contemporary, figurative, Steven Niblock, Sculptor, Bronze, Cast iron, Terracotta, Resin, Scottish Sculpture"><title>Steve Niblock D.A. M.A. Scottish Sculptor</title></head>

<body background="images/index_backg.jpg" bgcolor="#666600">

<!--tracking gif comes next http://das.reinvigorate.net/-->;
<script language="JavaScript" type="text/JavaScript" src="http://www.reinvigorate.net/archive/app.bin/jsinclude.php?24050"></script>
<!--end of script-->

<div align="center">
<table width="90%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0">
<tr bgcolor="#003300">
<td colspan="3" height="5"><img src="images/index_1pixel.gif" width="1" height="5"></td>
</tr>

<tr>
<td width="4%" bgcolor="#006600" background="images/index_title.jpg">
<p> </p>
</td>

as you can see--------at the beginning.
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Strange symbols on index page ?

It appears to be something to do with the character encoding.

PlusNet's Website Builder uses UTF-8, not ISO-8859-1.
Firefox auto-detects, and If I don't mess around with anything, it's fine, no odd symbols. If I go View>Character Encoding>Western (ISO-8859-1), then there are indeed four strange symbols - one of which appears three times.
There's an i with an umlaut, a double arrow and an inverted? in the very top left plus the A with an umlaut which appears at the left-hand side of the heading and twice to the right of the heading.

I'm not especially bright on this sort of thing, but I guess that some browsers are failing to pick up the defined coding.

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As far as the source code is concerned rather than the displayed page, I can't get them to show up using Firefox (that might be just because I'm dim), but in IE 5.5 SP2, yes, the three symbols appear at the very start of the page, plus the A with the umlaut further down between <p> and </p>, then again about a dozen lines further down (twice), again between <p> and </p>.
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Strange symbols on index page ?

Gordon, checked my front page at work today using win2000 pro and IE6----no symbols...not so at home with win98.
i also have those A's with a hat on inbetween 2 <p>'s----this can be seen in my previous post.
I've been wondering about that one for a while !
I know a wee bit of code but that sequence has me bamboozled.
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Firstly - oops - correction to my description.
Should have said A circumflex (= A with hat) not A with umlaut - either my eyes were really bad when I posted that or my brain was switched off.

There seem to be two separate problems here.

I made a quick page using the same template, and those paragraphs with the funny A in them, <p>A </p>, appeared uninvited, just like yours.
If you look at the heading, you'll notice that it is not properly centred. That is because it is actually three bits - a 4% width <td>, then an 83% width <td>, then a 13% width <td>. If you look closely at your existing page, you can see the joins. So - it's a rotten template to start with, and the unwanted A symbols appear in the 4% bit and the 13% bit. This is part of the PlusNet template, and (short of saving it to your PC, editing and re-uploading using IE or an FTP programme instead of the website builder) you can't get rid of them.

The three symbols at the beginning are not there though, so they would appear to be something that has been accidentally introduced - if you want to have a look at http://www.gordon5690.plus.com/forest.html you can (I hope) see this yourself - mine doesn't have those three symbols at the start.

As they are the very first thing that appears in the source code, I don't see how they can be the result of you accidentally inserting something in the heading, so I'm baffled by them.

(Edit)
Afterthought - stabbing in the dark here, but I wonder if it is because of either:
(a) that chunk of Javascript which you've inserted
or
(b) the fact that the counter at the bottom is outside the main part of the page.
You could try creating a couple of temporary extra pages with everything else the same but one of those removed or re-positioned on each, and see if that does it.

(Further edit)
Yet another afterthought. John is using Win98 and can't see them - but he has IE6. Using *either* Win98SE *or* WinME with IE5.5 SP2, I can see them, and so can you. Does the Win98 machine that you're using also have a version of IE earlier than 6? It's the browser not the version of Windows that counts, I think.