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Hello everyone,

I was thinking that seeing that I've now got broadband I should really get some filesharing done. Now I do have some reservations because of all this RIAA stuff going around. Should I be concerned or are the chances of there being any problems minimal ?

I'd welcome any thoughts / experiences on this

many thanks

Downsy
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I'm not entirely certain about where this thread will go, so let me just point out that discussions of file-sharing software are allowed here, but discussions along the lines of illegally sharing files, such as those that are copyrighted, are not allowed.

Thomas
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Okey, sorry about that
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Just to extend the message from Thomas, and to answer your own question further.

The RIAA seem to be very picky at filesharing in genral. Filesharing by nature, and the use of P2P application is 100% legal, however, as noted, sharing Copyright matterial with a licence is not.

The RIAA only - so far - are infecting files with discriptions and integrity data, of copyrighted files.

However, many of these files are renamed at some point down the chain, and can allmost be any non-copyright protected file.

The RIAA can pursue you even on the basis of a filename these days.
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If we're not allowed to discuss the legalities of it.... Sad
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What's to discuss? A file is either legal or it's not! and has been stated above discussion about the available sharing software programs is fine. Discussing the availability etc of copyrighted files is not.
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The RIAA are only after MP3 sharers (as they are the Recording Industry association of america), so they probably won't be bothered by non-mp3 sharing, i.e. software,movies. Although thats not to say that the MPAA won't be after you for movies and some other organisation coming for you for software piracy.

Also, the RIAA have no power outside the USA and i don't believe that the BPI are running similar operations in the UK.

But if you go around infringing peoples copyright then you always run the risk. You would be breaking the law after all. If you arn't happy with that then only share copyright free material such as open source software.
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But if you go around infringing peoples copyright then you always run the risk. You would be breaking the law after all. If you arn't happy with that then only share copyright free material such as open source software.



And all the people who live in the world only use p2p for transferring files that are non copyright. Ha! Every person who uses p2p has music or other which has a copyright, everyone knows it, everyone uses it. Considering the price of a cd these days, (and you may only like two tracks), are far too expensive. Personally I'm all for buying online direct from the artist for a reasonable fee, until then, Kazaa.
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You might try to get your facts right.

There are a number of groups dedicated to sharing files that do not infringe copyrights.

The E-donkey service regulary hosts verified ISO files for many Open Source projects.
jberry
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www.transmissionfilms.com for example, if you like stuff like that.
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But if you go around infringing peoples copyright then you always run the risk. You would be breaking the law after all. If you arn't happy with that then only share copyright free material such as open source software.


And all the people who live in the world only use p2p for transferring files that are non copyright. Ha! Every person who uses p2p has music or other which has a copyright, everyone knows it, everyone uses it.


I'm not saying that p2p networks arn't filled with copyright infringing content, just if someone is concerned with a little law breaking then they shouldn't do it! Just because 'everyone' does it doesn't mean its either risk-free or inevitable.

Probably one of the safest things to get off p2p is probably porn actually as the chances of anyone coming after you for that is almost zero. Well, as long as you arn't some sicko of course.
keithcalder
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Sorry dude, I dont watch porn, I have no need, my wife is more than enough for me. Cant see what ppl get out of watching it, unless like you say their sickos and cant get any ,so they have to watch someone else at it. how very very sad..
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Can we keep it PG guys? Smiley

Basically, using a p2p filesharing service isn't illegal. Downloading copyrighted files without the copyright holders permission is.
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personally I think they have enough Americans to worry about before they will start going for International filesharers. If the UK RA start going for us then its a different matter - in general stay away from Kazaa just go WinMX or Emule or something less famous.
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THat is kinda going back onto the condoning illegal trade side of things, which we won't allow on the forums.

However, you have raised one point which kind of has a silly ring to it.

The less famous systems actualy have less chance of staying alive. Why?

Simply put, there is less legal clout that these smaller companies have. Not so much the fact to close them down, but the means to seek access to logs and gain logging abailities.

As for the RIAA going after your Joe American, well I can see this stoping very soon.

There have been some very interesting news stories about the actions of the RIAA. Mainly the fact they can go after you without presenting evidence. This one raises a few problems.

You may be sharing 100% legal files, however, they can seek to gain your personal details without evidence. They could simply say that a copy of the software used to share the files is enough. Neither yourself or them can proove either way they you have or havn't (though if you have, logs of your IP may be enough).

The Reg also ran a story about the fact, there tactics proove just how simple it is to gain your personal information. Simply telling a court that you have been illegaly sharing out copyright media of your own woudl be enough. Allthough not this simple, it is infact not far from the truth.

The register glorified this somehat, saything that the pedophiles of this world could easily lookup childrens personal details. This may be true, however it is the one the whole thing that would worry most.

The RIAA also managed to go after an elderly american lady, filing a lawsuit against her. It pretty much calapsed straight off.

The lady in question uses a Mac, and guess what happens when you run a Mac? You can't use Kazza like they claimed.

This kind of prooves that the RIAA are using a no-holds-barred approach, taking no prisoners, no evidance and not even taking there time to check on themselves, let alone what they do.