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Webmail login CAPTCHA is broken

Townman
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Webmail login CAPTCHA is broken

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Alex
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Re: Webmail login CAPTCHA is broken

How did you try to get into webmail @Townman

Just tried it, logged in and never got asked for a CAPTCHA. Mind you I never use webmail so maybe there is some criteria where it asks you for it, say if you use it more often than me?

Townman
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Re: Webmail login CAPTCHA is broken

There is an email account I have operational issues with.  Rather looks like after a number of failed attempts CAPTCHA is invoked as an added security measure against hacking tools.

However (as shown) no CAPTCHA phrase is shown … providing a  solid lockout, even with the right password.

It does however appear that if left alone for long enough, the CAPTCHA added security is dropped.

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Re: Webmail login CAPTCHA is broken

I can see this is raised to our incident management team under ref: IMT-559

As a workaround, if you wait around an hour you should be able to login to webmail without seeing CAPTCHA.

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Alex
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Re: Webmail login CAPTCHA is broken

Thanks all I understand now, it is only invoked for security reasons should there be multiple sign in attempts in a short space of time I guess.
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Re: Webmail login CAPTCHA is broken

This still seems to be broke:

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Re: Webmail login CAPTCHA is broken

Give it a couple of hours and try again.

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Re: Webmail login CAPTCHA is broken

OK, but that's not really an answer.

 

1: I (somebody) could just try logging on with random passwords . This was deemed to be a security issue, the response seemed to be to introduce CAPTCHA. Once this does not work, the security "solution" has failed [ NB security is NOT about keeping "*bad guys*" out , turning the site off would be good security in that world]

 

2: The security does not actually seem to be enforced on the server side. I have several web mail boxes. All these put up the CAPTCHA challenge, not just ones I've tried before . The lockout is being done at this end (or by IP address) which won't prevent a dictionary attack

 

So the effect is only to cause inconvenience to legitimate users , while no restriction attackers  [ This is an all-too-common scenario]

 

FYI. I was in this situation because Firefox complained I needed critical updates . So I updated. Guess what they hadn’t tested it either so it lost ALL my saved passwords. So I needed to contact various people but guess what this locked me out of my email. So I goto the forum and hey ho I hit this.

 

BTW. I note the "hours wait" was a work-around in Jun 2018