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Re: Spam not marked as [-SPAM-]
19-11-2025 12:40 PM
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Re: Spam not marked as [-SPAM-]
19-11-2025 3:54 PM
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Maybe I spoke too soon, more unmarked spam arrived today.
Re: Spam not marked as [-SPAM-]
20-11-2025 8:14 AM
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Since about 10:00 on 19-Nov-2025, Spam / Junk emails have not been marked with "X-SPAM Yes"
It looks like the PN Spam filter is present but detection failed as we have :
X-pn-pstn-db:" Spam 99
X-PN-Virus-Filtered: by PlusNet MXCore (v5.00)
X-PN-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet MXCore (v5.00)
Re: Spam not marked as [-SPAM-]
20-11-2025 11:31 AM
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Yes, i have had lots of X-pn-pstn-db:" Spam 99 without the X-SPAM Yes, but i was not sure what the 99 means!
Re: Spam not marked as [-SPAM-]
20-11-2025 1:10 PM
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X-pn-pstn-db:" Spam 99 also exists in our genuine emails.
A spam handling Rule or Filter based on this would have too many false positives.
Re: Spam not marked as [-SPAM-]
20-11-2025 4:21 PM - edited 20-11-2025 4:22 PM
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I agree that filtering without x-spam Yes would not work ok.
The question is why is it missing.
Re: Spam not marked as [-SPAM-]
20-11-2025 4:28 PM
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X-SPAM along with the Plusnet Members Centre are both AWOL
Re: Spam not marked as [-SPAM-]
20-11-2025 5:18 PM
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Cause of missing X-Spam header:
➡️ Plusnet upgraded your filtering backend to MXCore v5, which uses X-PN-* headers instead of X-Spam ones.
The new headers you see are correct and mean spam filtering is active.
The closest equivalent to “X-Spam: Yes”
Rule 1 – Match any message identified as spam by Plusnet
Header contains: X-PN-Pstn-Db: Spam
This will catch all messages classified as spam (whether 80, 90, 99, etc.).
Use when: You want the same behaviour as “X-Spam: Yes”.
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🔥 More strict (top-level spam only)
If you only want definite spam (like the old >95% spam confidence):
Header contains: X-PN-Pstn-Db: Spam 9
This will match:
Spam 90
Spam 95
Spam 99
(and anything above 90)
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🛡 Equivalent “safe catch-all”: filter any message processed as spam**
If your client is simple (e.g., Outlook rule based on “with specific words in the message header”), use:
Header contains: X-PN-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet MXCore
This fires on every message that the spam engine examined, including those scored as spam.
(Good fallback for Outlook users.)
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👍 Recommended Best Practice (most accurate)
Use both conditions:
Header contains: X-PN-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet MXCore
AND
Header contains: X-PN-Pstn-Db: Spam
This guarantees:
The spam scanner ran
The message was actually classified as spam
This is the closest behavioural match to X-Spam: Yes
Question is mail flagged [-SPAM-] with the new filters?
Re: Spam not marked as [-SPAM-]
20-11-2025 5:25 PM
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X-pn-pstn-db:" Spam 99 also exists in genuine emails - i.e. is not usable
[-SPAM-] still does not appear in the Subject.
Re: Spam not marked as [-SPAM-]
20-11-2025 5:34 PM
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Equivalent rule — matches ONLY actual spam
This is the closest possible equivalent to X-Spam: Yes:
Header contains: X-PN-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet MXCore
This header is only present when Plusnet itself has classified the email as spam, and will NOT appear in legitimate emails even if they have Spam 99.
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🧠 Why this works
The score (Spam 99) is raw data, not the result.
The Filtered header is the final verdict.
Only emails that Plusnet has decided are spam get the X-PN-Spam-Filtered header.
HTH
Re: Spam not marked as [-SPAM-]
21-11-2025 8:09 AM - edited 21-11-2025 8:26 AM
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From a review of recent emails, these are headers showing the version of the spam filter,
not spam rating of the content of the message or the detection of a virus.
This is from a spam message :
X-pn-pstn-db:" Spam 99 X-PN-Virus-Filtered: by PlusNet MXCore (v5.00) X-PN-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet MXCore (v5.00) Subject: Exclusive Costco Offer: Free Ninja Creami Ice Cream Maker!
This is from a genuine email ( we are a VM customer ) :
X-pn-pstn-db:" Spam 99 X-PN-Virus-Filtered: by PlusNet MXCore (v5.00) X-PN-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet MXCore (v5.00) Subject: Your Virgin Media bill is ready
This is from an email I sent to myself :
X-pn-pstn-db:" Spam 99 X-PN-Virus-Filtered: by PlusNet MXCore (v5.00) X-PN-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet MXCore (v5.00) Subject: SPAM filter test
Re: Spam not marked as [-SPAM-]
21-11-2025 9:33 AM
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Can you post up the full header from your known non spam email, redacting any personal information.
Re: Spam not marked as [-SPAM-]
21-11-2025 10:35 AM
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This header is for the message sent to myself, the sender and recipient have been redacted.
Attached as a PDF ...
Re: Spam not marked as [-SPAM-]
21-11-2025 12:20 PM
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However that doesn't answer your original question. @Townman flagged this to the business in an earlier post
Re: Spam not marked as [-SPAM-]
21-11-2025 12:24 PM
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It just looks very broken to me !
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