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Re: Mail delivery to recipients taking 5hrs plus
30-07-2018 1:26 PM
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Hi all,
Just a brief update on IMT-2206 - we are still looking into this and working on it in a Testing Environment at the moment.
Once we've got a confirmed fix we will update this thread.
Thanks to everyone for being patient whilst we've been working on this.
All the best
Re: Mail delivery to recipients taking 5hrs plus
30-07-2018 5:31 PM
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How is Plusnet going to fix a Google failing ... short of implementing SPF?
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Re: Mail delivery to recipients taking 5hrs plus
30-07-2018 9:58 PM
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Re: Mail delivery to recipients taking 5hrs plus
06-08-2018 4:47 PM
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Any update on this incident/topic?
Re: Mail delivery to recipients taking 5hrs plus
07-08-2018 9:02 AM
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Re: Mail delivery to recipients taking 5hrs plus
12-08-2018 12:26 PM
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As well as delays delivering to gmail accounts I also have emails that I send to gmail accounts that are never being received (they go into my Outlook email Sent Box immediately). As I also have a gmail account which is also set up in my Outlook email Client I sent a few test emails.
I sent one Friday evening at 22:28, it arrived just over 1.5 hours later at a 4 minutes past midnight ( the header information is below)
I sent one Saturday morning at 11:35, subject title Test:11:35) , that one has not yet arrived (Sunday 12:22)
I sent on Sunday Morning at 11:32, that arrived shortly after at 11:47.
Friday Evening email Head information:
Received: by 2002:a0c:e60d:0:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id z13-v6csp400838qvm;
Fri, 10 Aug 2018 16:04:24 -0700 (PDT)
X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA+uWPyuqAg5954GeYdWv1wb/NGhuavmOeEfLHvgEnQ3uMIZn570LoqZxzBQx3F8KLABOOcdvFAf
X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:9693:: with SMTP id n19-v6mr7717674plp.282.1533942264162;
Fri, 10 Aug 2018 16:04:24 -0700 (PDT)
ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1533942264; cv=none;
d=google.com; s=arc-20160816;
b=DaaGe1uceoYjDrpkVc65o6Vec+nEYyWt+a2++jW8iJdP4Hxx07Px4jJXTco5jCsXkD
Aq+q+3oP1y8dABaFws/neoaDQoH7sJv1T1isQBfzbUeIp7nlkbRtzDv0xsLiBuy2ZViy
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iTfvcMYVdBDFQrSH1j4qYqXPWLGpGPgcBcjy7W243ixvE8UHh0hoPiu74p7zbzU2ijV/
txkvhUwovrxWOIkGpPvIi+NZcHKsU6Jav7+abLU42JKhsWP3wfQvmmbZU1oP7nq1BPbI
bYSg==
ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816;
h=content-language:thread-index:mime-version:message-id:date:subject
:to:from:arc-authentication-results;
bh=F/SVgTUUW0ut55DiHQFlR7onq2MEehrmatxP675Dtv0=;
b=FzzuhGyhgchLjLZD+nrJqSaEqA79RLHOAHrlxd2/Qn6DXfFK11/7sv+1HjuW8BtqKL
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1wR/2zy4Re/+W5wn6Ug8un0qMUI+pFASE8ljHOseSFbC2Uph/lmCicPq+2oyJm3PnJToS
LGTIi0cdtynUSH4BgwsAsf6MqthZORg2xJ6Hh/2hL1GM4YxT+m4kII1viKeaLTXzfYJx
qnZNYO2E3aD2v3EayRoWlU6NozxteJcVLCxbAQ5IeMdvi6RmPKc+HAFRAa0ycxj7m9Fi
y7oQ==
ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com;
spf=neutral (google.com: 84.93.230.250 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of <redacted>.plus.com) smtp.mailfrom=<redacted>.plus.com
Return-Path: <<redacted>.plus.com>
Received: from avasout05.plus.net (avasout05.plus.net. [84.93.230.250])
by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o3-v6si8590810pld.281.2018.08.10.16.04.22
for <<redacted>@gmail.com>
(version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128);
Fri, 10 Aug 2018 16:04:23 -0700 (PDT)
Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 84.93.230.250 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of <redacted>.plus.com) client-ip=84.93.230.250;
Authentication-Results: mx.google.com;
spf=neutral (google.com: 84.93.230.250 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of <redacted>.plus.com) smtp.mailfrom=<redacted>.plus.com
Received: from <redacted> ([<redacted>])
by smtp with ESMTP
id oEwnfaAYm05ijoEwofOYWZ; Fri, 10 Aug 2018 22:27:50 +0100
X-CM-Score: 0.00
X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=QJJGuDDL c=1 sm=1 tr=0
a=Q62ca8rPf8DjVi6Zq4Wqsg==:117 a=Q62ca8rPf8DjVi6Zq4Wqsg==:17
a=DAwyPP_o2Byb1YXLmDAA:9 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=tQGhkSUO9cYtgadkqNwA:9
a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=_6GpL_ENAAAA:8
a=zCOvTRUlKqzhfid7IWsA:9 a=fCl9OvUZB0dNVMJA:21 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10
a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10
From: "<redacted>" <<redacted>.plus.com>
To: <<redacted>@gmail.com>
Subject: Test
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2018 22:27:50 +0100
Message-ID: <001201d430f0$fe45d260$fad17720$@<redacted>.plus.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0013_01D430F9.600A3A60"
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0
Thread-Index: AdQw8P0colDFC3KIQk6D3CGo0kajcg==
Content-Language: en-gb
X-Antivirus: AVG (VPS 180810-8, 10/08/2018), Outbound message
X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfGLg7zwHja3kPmo8ZqmYoQk6D5HVRp+qI/2pV/yfNLb6ULEQAZHo1vvVWoxVqnvjKN/Xma4V1a7PQyn5Epc1OKe6U9m+NUBwoF816iduQS1iBJ0kk/Ek
foDNUlAWi1TgdnYNJXfGaCT2JzeuADpJK0GQsJbnxFKrZPlE6QzaoEHq
X-Antivirus: AVG (VPS 180810-8, 10/08/2018), Inbound message
X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
Re: Mail delivery to recipients taking 5hrs plus
12-08-2018 12:44 PM
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All messages I've sent to a gmail address have eventually turned up. The longest delay I've experienced is 1 day, 20 hours so still time for the "missing" message to arrive.
I've found delay time is variable, later messages can arrive before those sent earlier.
Re: Mail delivery to recipients taking 5hrs plus
13-08-2018 10:53 AM
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Your, right it turned up just after midnight so that was 1 day 13 hours.
Sent 2018-08-11 11:35
Rcvd 2018-08-13 00:09
Received: by 2002:a0c:e60d:0:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id z13-v6csp2161561qvm;
Sun, 12 Aug 2018 16:08:31 -0700 (PDT)
X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA+uWPyOSAtlotJ4PefYbJrDIvc5RN1hK3DDBLMRDvm2Tk+ItgzUjx/9A9H+dlffzB2NL6E0/2Av
X-Received: by 2002:a62:5613:: with SMTP id k19-v6mr16517049pfb.212.1534115311100;
Sun, 12 Aug 2018 16:08:31 -0700 (PDT)
ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1534115311; cv=none;
d=google.com; s=arc-20160816;
b=PXHmkMOpkM3YP0f/c1dPwz1xl+ECCqPE9ZajPdPcxr7a/CaeZhbTh58IQu3NKTdwsi
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O4jf6Wajdv+0mDF8Z/eRWJXxUahDQedA3Wn3qMEMHW0PLjRW75QVf329Wkaovnsw1M7C
2TlMpvodnaUnO+qkVf24baI0hNFnpjivXqpMxZPoKiq1OiyIdVNlFTpYh/uwIE8ueSRI
S+uw==
ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816;
h=content-language:thread-index:mime-version:message-id:date:subject
:to:from:arc-authentication-results;
bh=q8Zmrdw+IMRd5RleMderslsildYFnM5OLvHJaKJx8xg=;
b=WHH6mL5ZIDWDLi2r+ec2ZHWWeBW7yZH1lYw39R4k50uzO7VudM/e+80urS70z0bIED
qdTrptUsHXjQzNgrOtcjDMMOZPEl/Oykta3a04t02tn42OKFsQymt3rdqBdpyQ4ljRF7
cN3YDWmR3Q9LBjSXZ0IGEWjMLHsGLrk5yvMMUVCaZTUg+J0fS/i8nyArM79DvjaW6QcM
apcY6uo53vvpmC2kWg/yq3e3k9a0pDNsZpmOvhbrgk7WlV3tf+3ng2Ff70pSYpDRDt3g
wGg4uhW9IumJAL3SWtUEZofrzSpxoImUcB6xso++7wzv+w+aMPseiSY46UjdWqA//Sdp
FBog==
ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com;
spf=neutral (google.com: 212.159.14.17 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of <redacted>.plus.com) smtp.mailfrom=<redacted>.plus.com
Return-Path: <<redacted>.plus.com>
Received: from avasout02.plus.net (avasout02.plus.net. [212.159.14.17])
by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f21-v6si15793668pgk.418.2018.08.12.16.08.29
for <<redacted>@gmail.com>
(version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128);
Sun, 12 Aug 2018 16:08:30 -0700 (PDT)
Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 212.159.14.17 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of <redacted>.plus.com) client-ip=212.159.14.17;
Authentication-Results: mx.google.com;
spf=neutral (google.com: 212.159.14.17 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of <redacted>.plus.com) smtp.mailfrom=<redacted>.plus.com
Received: from <redacted> ([<redacted>])
by smtp with ESMTP
id oRFJfDZNXEt9noRFKf5jia; Sat, 11 Aug 2018 11:35:46 +0100
X-CM-Score: 0.00
X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=Esb8UxUA c=1 sm=1 tr=0
a=Q62ca8rPf8DjVi6Zq4Wqsg==:117 a=Q62ca8rPf8DjVi6Zq4Wqsg==:17
a=DAwyPP_o2Byb1YXLmDAA:9 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=tQGhkSUO9cYtgadkqNwA:9
a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=_6GpL_ENAAAA:8
a=zCOvTRUlKqzhfid7IWsA:9 a=fCl9OvUZB0dNVMJA:21 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10
a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10
From: "<redacted>" <<redacted>.plus.com>
To: <<redacted>@gmail.com>
Subject: Test 11:35
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2018 11:35:47 +0100
Message-ID: <002601d4315f$11bb78e0$35326aa0$@<redacted>.plus.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0027_01D43167.737FE0E0"
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0
Thread-Index: AdQxXxCTA6Bb7MDBQay1EKCXcysZ0g==
Content-Language: en-gb
X-Antivirus: AVG (VPS 180811-0, 11/08/2018), Outbound message
X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfLsty+SV0OdeoAg7H/toVdiCM2r2tgWn9tX7NZGu524zdKgRK0/sIAar9CSkcLkpR3FG3isegcWFdVc492ZFVhTWrRVspsDcJHwDJTfRp2GODuixgCQY
N9s9LZBTSBrEpuYPhdn8t30Aay4deuVPMNCK4jt9TieSZC4qH8/30vkr
X-Antivirus: AVG (VPS 180812-4, 12/08/2018), Inbound message
X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
Re: Mail delivery to recipients taking 5hrs plus
15-08-2018 1:01 PM - edited 15-08-2018 1:01 PM
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Hi all.
We think we've worked out what we need to do to fix this, but due to the way our internal change process works it's going to take a bit of time to implement.
Apologies for the continued inconvenience caused.
Re: Mail delivery to recipients taking 5hrs plus
15-08-2018 2:21 PM
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To be pedantic, Plusnet believe that they have a mitigation which ought to prevent Gmail from taking the wrong actions. If the measures deliver a resolution, they will verify that Gmail are indeed taking inappropriate actions, by their email servers acting "aggressively" where they ought to be acting neutrally.
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Re: Mail delivery to recipients taking 5hrs plus
18-08-2018 12:57 PM
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I too have elderly parents who rely on Plusnet email . I use gmail so communication from them currently is quicker by Royal Mail!
Please could you give an honest time scale for the fix. I can set them up with a Gmail account if necessary but if the Plusnet/gmail problem will be fixed in the next 2 or 3 days I won't bother.
Re: Mail delivery to recipients taking 5hrs plus
18-08-2018 6:51 PM
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I'm an elderly parent with daughters who both use gmail addresses and for some time now, my emails to them sometimes take over 2 days to get there or do not arrive in chronological order. As one of my daughters lives in Central America and the other in Scotland, it's very frustrating to not have a rapid email service. I hope PlusNet will resolve it soon.
Re: Mail delivery to recipients taking 5hrs plus
on 18-08-2018 9:29 PM - last edited on 19-08-2018 10:10 AM by Mav
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I am looking into this issue for my Mother, who is the Plusnet customer.
Can the admins please give some detail on what the actual problem is. There are lots of theories and claims from non support staff, but I see little evidence to support their claims. The responses from the staff give no detail at all.
Moderator's note by Mike (Mav): Post released from Spam Filter.
Re: Mail delivery to recipients taking 5hrs plus
18-08-2018 11:45 PM
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Everyone suffering from this issue needs to be asking questions of Google...
- Why are you (Google) delaying the receipt of emails sent from @Username.plus.net?
- Why are you only doing this in respect of the receiving @gmail.com address being a free addresses and processing emails as normal if the receiving address is a paid for @gmail.com address?
- Why if a Plusnet user sends an email to @gmail.com using their own @mydomain.co.uk (or whatever) email / domain does is the email received immediately, even though the email is sent by the same SMTP servers?
- Is Google playing silly games in the absence of @Username.plue.net having an SPF record, rather than following the correct behaviour which is "Accept" as per http://www.openspf.org/SPF_Record_Syntax
Result Explanation Intended action None The domain does not have an SPF record or the SPF record does not evaluate to a result accept
Given that using the same Plusnet email servers...
- Emails sent from Plusnet email addresses to BUSINESS @gmail.com addresses, regardless of which @domain-name is used, are received immediately
- Emails sent for a hosted domain to both BUSINESS and FREE @gmail.com addresses are received immediately
… it is difficult to understand how the Plusnet service can be responsible for emails sent from @Username.plus.com to FREE @gmail.com addresses being delayed … unless Google is behaving incorrectly in the absence of an OPTIONAL SPF specification by treating *.plus.com as a single bulk sender. Whatever the Google approach is wrong and inconsistent.
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Re: Mail delivery to recipients taking 5hrs plus
19-08-2018 11:10 AM
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Why has this post been cut to leave only the first line of the original post of SlyOne? I received in my email the full text which is somehow different to the moderator's summary.
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