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russspur
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Emails bounced as my dynamic IP blacklisted

I have a dynamic IP and have recently found emails I am sending out are not reaching their recipient. This is usually when I send an email out via webmail to a non webmail address .I have a few websites which are not business sites and I have for many years used webmail via cPanel.

From the Spamhaus site I found this information:

Ref: PBL1582564

146.200.0.0/16 is listed on the Policy Block List (PBL)

 

My webhost TSO Host say "Looking into this I see that the reason for this bounce back is that there are previous email which have bounced back from yahoo due to user complaints. From what I can see your local IP seems to currently blacklisted. "

 

I can categorically say none of the emails I send out are mass mailed or spam.

 

Can you tell me how I can clear this please.

Thank you 

Russ

 

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Re: Emails bounced as my dynamic IP blacklisted

Hi @russpur,

I'm sorry to hear that you're experiencing this issue. Just to clarify, is this occurring when using a Plusnet email address, or another email providers services? Also, do you know if this is only occurring when sending emails to Yahoo recipients?

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Re: Emails bounced as my dynamic IP blacklisted

I'm not too sure on your setup here. Unless you are running a mailserver, which I suspect you are not, then your broadband IP Address shouldn't be involved.

How are you sending these emails? Is it via the "webmail via cPanel" that you mention? Is it TSO Host? If so, their reply seems to indicate that yahoo have either blacklisted your email address or their smtp server, neither of which are anything to do with Plusnet.

The IP addresses of most residential internet connections would be considered dynamic and on Spamhaus's PBL as such.  

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Re: Emails bounced as my dynamic IP blacklisted

Pretty much all of the connection IP addresses will be on a PBL somewhere, simply because they are connection addresses and not mail servers. We'd advise using a dedicated mail server to send email from as these should already have established reputations and allow you to send emails.

 

If you're using webmail to send mails (it sounds like you're using the domain providers webmail) then your connection IP address shouldn't matter at all as the mail will be going directly from that address, so I'm not sure why TSO Host are saying it's due to your connection IP being on a blacklist.

 

*Looks like @pjmarsh was writing a very similar reply*

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russspur
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Re: Emails bounced as my dynamic IP blacklisted

Hello Alex H

No I'm not using a PlusNet email address. I am using as an example russ@russb.org.uk via webmail via my domain russb.org.uk . No the failures have no connection with Yahoo. Really don't understand where that has come from as I don't do Yahoo chat rooms or the like and certainly can't remember the last time I sent an email to anyone @Yahoo.

Another example from admin@peaksanddalesadvocacy.org.uk to annyoung5@icloud.com

russspur
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Re: Emails bounced as my dynamic IP blacklisted

Just to clarify its my IP address which I get from PlusNet who provide my service which is blacklisted. 

 

Russ

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Re: Emails bounced as my dynamic IP blacklisted

That IP Address has nothing to do with you sending emails though. Given that you are just using TSO Hosts webmail then:

  1. You connect to a webpage (TSO's Webmail) - TSO could block you at this point based on your IP Address, but that doesn't seem to be happening
  2. You send an email - The webserver connects to TSO SMTP server and creates the email
  3. TSO's SMTP server connects to the recipients SMTP server to give it the email.  At this point it is TSO's SMTP servers IP address the the recipients SMTP server is seeing.  That may reject the connection based on the servers IP address, the email address, or the email content

Other than TSO's webmail server, your IP address from Plusnet wouldn't be a consideration. If that was the case, then you would not likely to be able to log into webmail, or possibly not even be able to see the login page.

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russspur
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Re: Emails bounced as my dynamic IP blacklisted

PJMarsh Thanks for all this information. I need to consider what you have said and how irrespective of the reason how to get my messages safely delivered. 

Put into your scenario what would happen if the webmail to webmail e mail had a forwarder on it to say an email address@icloud.

Thanks for your prompt and positive response.

 

Russ

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Re: Emails bounced as my dynamic IP blacklisted

Webmail is just an email client the same as you might have on your PC. That is just a set of webpages. It is the mail servers (smtp servers) that do the actual sending and transferring of the email.

If a forwarder was in place, then your smtp server would pass the email to the smtp server for the email address you put in the to field (or CC or BCC).  That smtp server would then see that a forwarder is set up and so connect to the smtp server for the address that is set up to be forwarded to and pass the email to there.

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russspur
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Re: Emails bounced as my dynamic IP blacklisted

Again thank you .

I need to do some experimenting and as I say give some thought to what you say.

Would the forwarded email (@icloud) react any differently to the blacklisted IP address ?

I can see I may be challenging TSO hosts comments . Can I quote you, without of course identifying you to try to resolve the issue.

Thanks.

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Re: Emails bounced as my dynamic IP blacklisted

Each SMTP server could check different blacklists and react differently to those lists.

Other things could might come in to play with forwarding, such as SPF, which is an anti spam feature that can be configured on a domain.  If the forwarding service doesn't support something called SRS then that can cause problems.

Edit: You can probably ignore what I said about SPF.  I've just looked up the 2 domains that you listed above and neither have SPF records set up, so that shouldn't be an issue

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russspur
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Re: Emails bounced as my dynamic IP blacklisted

PJMarsh

Thanks again.

Can I quote what you say to hosting company? without identifying you.

 

 

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Sure, no problem

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