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I raised this with Support but they've said it's outside their support remit and I can appreciate that. They suggested I try the forums, so here goes.

I've got a Zoom ADSL USB modem plugged into my main PC (Compaq) which is running XP Home Edition. I have a second PC (Gateway) running ME which I've connected to the first using a back-to-back ethernet cable between the built in network port on the first PC and a network card I installed in the second.

The home networking setup works fine, and I can access all the shared resources from both PCs on the other, print, etc., EXCEPT reliably access the internet from the Gateway machine. Windows Update invariably works, both autoupdate and via IE6, and Macafee Antivius faithfully updates itself several times a week. However, whenever I try and access any other web page using IE6, I get a Cannot Find Server or DNS error message.

I've not changed any of the settings that were set up by the Home Networking wizard for ICS, so I assume things are generally OK, but I'm completely puzzled how IE6 can work on one address such as Windows Update, but not Office Update or any other url.

Has anybody got any ideas?

Thanks

John Anstey
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Registered: 30-07-2007

Internet Connection Sharing setup

On both pcs, start a dos window and enter the following command:

ipconfig /all

Then post what each says here.

You may need to manually set the DNS servers on the ME PC.

Also do you run a software firewall on the XP PC or have turned on the XP firewall. If so try disabling either or both and see if browsing from the Me system now works.
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When you ran the network wizard, did you create a network setup disk to run on the ME machine?
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Replying to gadgetboy: I did create a network setup disk when I set the network up the first time and it ran OK on the ME machine and since then, I've had no problems with networking. I've run the Network Setup Wizard on the XP system a number of times since when I've done a Windows update and the network connection has disappeared, but it's been restablished every time without needing to run the diskette on the ME machine.

Replying to PeterVaughan:
the XP machine had this result:
Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : anstey-compaq
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VM Network Connection
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-08-02-0B-48-EA
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

PPP adapter Zoom PPP DSL:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-53-45-00-00-00
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 81.174.144.108
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 81.174.144.108
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 212.159.13.49
212.159.13.50

The ME machine gives the following result:

Windows IP Config G800.mshome.net
DNS Server: 192.168.0.1
Node type: Mixed
Netbios Scope ID:
IP Routing enabled: No
WINS Proxy enabled: No
Netbios Resolution Uses DNS: No

Ethernet adapter:
Description . . . . . . . . . : ICSHARE Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . : 44-45-53-54-00-00
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
Subnet Mask. . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . :
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
Primary WINS Server . . . . :
Secondary WINS Server . . . :
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . :
Lease Expires . . . . . . . :

Ethernet adapter :
Description . . . . . . . . : F5D5000, PCI Card/Desktop Network PCI Card
Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-30-BD-6A-D7-C7
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.186
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Primary WINS Server . . . . :
Secondary WINS Server . . . :
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : 10 05 04 10:52:25
Lease Expires . . . . . . . : 10 12 04 10:52:25

Ethernet adapter :
Description . . . . . . . . : Microsoft TV/Video Connection
Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 3.0.0.0
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
Default Gateway . . . . . . :
Primary WINS Server . . . . :
Secondary WINS Server . . . :
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . :
Lease Expires . . . . . . . :

Ethernet adapter :
Description . . . . . . . . : PPP Adapter.
Physical Address. . . . . . : 44-45-53-54-00-00
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . :
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
Primary WINS Server . . . . :
Secondary WINS Server . . . :
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . :
Lease Expires . . . . . . . :

I tried turning off the firewall on the XP machines (XP's own) but it made no difference to the ME machine being able to access the internet, i.e. it still couldn't.

Hope this all helps and thanks for answering.

John Anstey
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Enable your XP as the DHCP server and disable it on the ME machine.
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Sorry, I'm out of my depth. How do I do that?

John
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Internet Connection Sharing setup

That is not necessary as you have setup static IP's which will work fine.

All the settings look fine but I suspect it's the DNS lookup that is failing for whatever reason in the Me PC.

Try setting the DNS servers up manually on the Me PC. In contral panel click network connections. Find the TCPIP->network card and click properties. Then click the DNS tab and enter 212.159.13.49 and 212.159.13.150 then apply.

Exit out of the windows and reboot the PC when it says and see if that helps.
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Unfortunately no change. Opening the properties for the tcp/ip->network card allowed me to setup DNS with the two servers listed. However, it insisted that I enter a host and domain, so I tried the network name for both the Compaq XP machines and the Gateway ME machine, with a domain of mshome. The former killed off all internet access from the Gateway machine, but when I used the hostname G800, I was able to get through to Windows Update again, but still nothing else!

Even trying to point IE6 at www.plus.net got me nowhere.

Am I specifying the right host and domain? I ran ipconfig /all again with the same results except that the first couple of lines have changed and now read:
Windows IP Config G800.mshome
DNS Server: 212.159.13.49
212.159.13.150

I would try setting the domain to mshome.net, but when Windows Update worked, there was an update waiting which I started to install, but it's taking absolutely ages to download the components, so I'm going to leave it running overnight and perhaps try again in the morning.

Thanks

John
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DNS Server: 212.159.13.49
212.159.13.150


I think the second DNS is wrong it should be 212.159.13.50

Correct that and see if it helps.
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212.159.13.150 is a valid DNS Server, along with 212.159.11.150 (Dagger and Diamond). However they are both due to phased out (see previous entries in service status) .

212.159.13.49 (Adsl Dns)
212.159.13.50

212.159.6.9 (Dial Up Dns)
212.159.6.10

Aaron
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I did change the domain from mshome to mshome.net and after rebooting, IE6 couldn't get me anywhere, so I changed it back to a domain of mshome again and still IE6 went nowhere. Even Windows Update gave me a "This page cannot be displayed" screen with can't find server or DNS error message.

I've deleted 212.159.13.150 as a DNS server and replaced it with 212.159.13.50 and Windows Update is accessible again but www.plus.net and the Microsoft Office update site both give me a "This page cannot be displayed screen"

Thanks

John
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Just for the sake of trying something this evening, I tried pinging from the ME machine. Pinging the XP machine resulted in all 4 packets returned in <10ms average.

Pinging the DNS server 212.159.13.49 produced an average response of 13ms. 212.159.13.50 gave a 24ms average response. So I tried some others:
plus.net - 212.159.8.137 - 27ms
logicacmg.com - 63.127.194.193 - 106ms
amazon.com - 207.171.163.90 - timed out
onetel.net - 212.67.96.134 - 20ms
natwest.com - 155.136.80.64 - timed out
southernrailway.com - 213.86.249.120 - 178ms
ping microsoft.com - 207.46.130.108 - timed out
ping windowsupdate.microsoft.nsatc.net - 207.46.134.92 - timed out!

IE6 was able to bring up and navigate the logicacmg.com site, and the Windows Update site, (even though ping timed out!) but none of the others, so there must be something about those two sites that IE6 likes.

If anyone can fathom out what is going on, I'd be most grateful!

Thanks

John Anstey
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Your not using any proxy settings are you?

Some sites will not respond to pings, but will allow you connect.
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on the xp pc try nslookup at the command promt and then www.bbc.co.uk and other web address. In boardband and adsl there is another report of possible slow dns today.
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Thanks for the responses.

Gadgetboy - no proxy server set on either XP or ME machines.
likely - I tried nslookup on bbc.co.uk, and all the other sites I pinged earlier - consistently Server: pth-cdns01.plus.net
Address 212.159.13.49
Non-authorative answer:
name of the web site I'd typed following by its ip address (4 ip addresses for amazon.com, 2 for windowsupdate.microsoft.com).

Should I have expected anything else? Remember this was from the XP machine. I don't appear to have nslookup as a valid command on the ME PC.