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Best Firewall to use with XP??

Craigiusmaximus
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Registered: 30-07-2007

Best Firewall to use with XP??

Hey people could someone tell me what they think the best firewall to use on my pc is i download all the time from torrents and my pc is on the net most if not all of the time i have a network (wireless) set up in house so if im not on the net some else is need a good fire wall to protect my pc im currently using Norton antivirus 2006 and also zonealarm pro is this good enought i dont use the zone alarm all the time norton is the main one....


cheers Cheesy
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I think norton is too intrusive, scanning every damn thing.

I prefer kaspersky AV for antivirus and Kerio Personal Firewall (now sunbeam personal firewall) because they both use a low ammount of system resources, and keep the nasties out effectivly.
Denzil
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Registered: 31-07-2007

Best Firewall to use with XP??

Agreed on Norton. It often cause more problems than it solves. Plus, of course, you have to pay for it when there are perfectly good free packages you can download e.g. Zonealarm firewall, AVG antivirus, Adaware antispyware etc.
Alecto
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Best Firewall to use with XP??

I'm another ex-Norton user.
I had Norton Internet Security for about four years, but got tired of it slowing everything down, trying to rule my computer, and of them issuing updates that messed up the computer, then denying they'd done it.
Switched to Zone Alarm free and AVG Antivirus free, about six months ago. Both much smaller than Norton, less intrusive, and seem to do the job. And, of course, free.
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firstly this has been coverd about 100 times already on this forum, can you not search?

secondly, it depends what you wish to do within your home, some firewalls are easy to setup for LAN activity, while some are not.

ZA has a free version, as did sygate (if it still can be downloaded after symantec took them over) outpost is good, as well as "tiny". However it all depends on what you want to do.

Also, all software firewalls, and i do mean ALL are useless in this day and age. Get your self a hardware firewall to protect against incomming attacks, and use your common sense (if you have none, turn your pc off now) as to what to view // run on your PC. Running in a usermode not admin mode now offers far more protection than any software firewall will. If you have a good hardware firewall you can block both incomming and outgoing ports so that even connectback virii will not work.

As I said, common sense is your only defence now against the new threats on the net.
Craigiusmaximus
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Posts: 212
Registered: 30-07-2007

Best Firewall to use with XP??

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firstly this has been coverd about 100 times already on this forum, can you not search?



Thanks for all the info


shame the above comment couldnt go on all the Max DSL topics!!!!!!! :roll: :roll:
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hehe true Wink

ill go flame them as well for it :p

but yea in reality the only way to really keep a box secure is to have a hardware firewall that does both in and out bound packet inspection (running a freebsd / openbsd server will do the job)

however if you have read the latest MS talk about how you cant recover from spyware anymore ( http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1945808,00.asp ) i would sugest giving up wiht firewalls, get VMware (free) http://www.vmware.com/download/server/ and use a virtual OS for all your web browsing etc so that you can not get infected Cheesy
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I have always used the normal XP one in connection with whatever is built into the router and never had any issues. I use to build computers and software them for a living and they were all set up identical to mine, Win XP Firewall and Microsoft Anti Spyware beta with AVG's Free Anti-Virus.

I also told them to use Firefox web browser. I only had one system come back to me with any serious spyware/virus issues and that was due to him surfing porn websites using IE6 because Firefox wouldnt allow him to view the site.

Obviously he got charged for it to be sorted out :lol:

The main issue here comes down to the user who is on the PC. I have never had an infected system since I was about 15 years old which is over 5 years ago now.

If your a total noob and are trying to download illegal stuff or view naughty websites and are not checking the files for viri or running any anti-spyware monitoring software then you will get smacked, and you deserve it heh.

It really doesnt matter what protection you are using aslong as you know how to use it and that it is updated and working effienciently.

People get too side-lined by software that does it all for you, but in cases like that where there is no user control whatsoever needed it merely leaves you as dumbfounded to whats going on as you were before you even owned a PC. Software that acts like your mother is a bad thing I believe, such as Norton etc because its got its own way to do things and the less you know about it the better it seems to be lol
Craigiusmaximus
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Posts: 212
Registered: 30-07-2007

Best Firewall to use with XP??

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hehe true Wink

ill go flame them as well for it :p

but yea in reality the only way to really keep a box secure is to have a hardware firewall that does both in and out bound packet inspection (running a freebsd / openbsd server will do the job)

however if you have read the latest MS talk about how you cant recover from spyware anymore ( http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1945808,00.asp ) i would sugest giving up wiht firewalls, get VMware (free) http://www.vmware.com/download/server/ and use a virtual OS for all your web browsing etc so that you can not get infected Cheesy


thanks will have a look at these me thinks..... Cool
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only prob is u need a semi good PC to start with to hold the VM and allow it to run fast
Craigiusmaximus
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Registered: 30-07-2007

Best Firewall to use with XP??

Yeah my PC spec is good to be honest.....
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get VMware (free) http://www.vmware.com/download/server/ and use a virtual OS for all your web browsing etc so that you can not get infected Cheesy


Nothing is impossible my friend, there are plenty of ways a computer can be infected. A VM server just means you can surf away with less risk but using a limited account in windows can lower the risk as well. Finally using a single boot version of linux (what I use for internet banking) is even more secure.

Norton as many people have previously commented on, is full of bloatware, and while it used to be really good, it's well and truely fallen of the horse.

The free firewall in XP, is only good for blocking incoming connections, and if your already behind a router, it's worthless using, since the router will already be doing that job. Personally if your behind a router, I would recomend something like Process Guard, will simply controls which applications can actually run and blocks any unauthorised applications from running.

Buzz, your comment about this topic being covered lots of times, while true, it's always good to review the subject from time to time. It's a fluid environment and something can always be brought to the table.

My 2 P worth Smiley
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your still hereHuhHuh

*me fwaps gadget*

True its fluid, in the respect the rootkits are getting better and the defences are not moving at all. A VM should allow for a decent level of securiyt, however you are right, it is possible to get out of the VM if you know what you are doing :S
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Not exactly.....

VM is good if your experienced and have the knowledge to setup, otherwise a limited account in windows, is the next best thing.
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or a VM in a limited account Cheesy