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WiFi Security Questionnaire

davepye
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Registered: 30-07-2007

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Sorry for actually posting a thread about something OTHER than MaxDSL or LLU rubbish.

I'm just wondering, those of you who have wireless networks, do you bother with security, WEP, WPA?

Personally mine is wide open for all to use, I do live in a quiet area mind you. But if I were to see someone using my network I'd more likely offer them a warm drink than warn them off. I'm more than confident with my computers security and don't think I need to be worrying about that where I live.

I just feel like if everyone were to open up their wireless networks, we'd be closing in on a situation where by there'd be quite a LARGE are of coverage of free wifi in this country.

What are peoples opinions on this and other similar matters?
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Most definatly shut.

No one is leeching my net connection lol

Then again I live in Manchester, I dont want to walk of my house one morning finding a tramp outside on a laptop surfing for housing with my net connection. Pfft!
apollo1
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No chance, although £4 an hour seems fair to blitz my connection Cool


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davepye
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a tramp outside on a laptop


HARDLY LIKELY

Can we please think realistically about this.
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Can we please think realistically about this.


Well its a bit of a silly question aint it. The protection is there to be used. If you dont use it and something does happen, then you deserve it heh.

I dont see why anyone wouldnt use it, whether you live in quiet area or not the security risks are real.

I suppose if your confident enough then thats fine. But alot of people use wireless connections for their laptops and laptops are often used for mainly work purposes. If file-sharing is setup on that network and you disregard the security issues involved with a WLAN then you could not only be risking your own files and personal data but also information for the company you work for.

Its just a plain bad idea not to use it, as its not hard to setup and I cant see that it slows you down or has any adverse effects. So why not use it?
davepye
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Yeah that's fine. But how do you feel that someone on the same network as you has a whole lot more access to your computer than someone on the internet?

Maybe I just have a overly trusting and liberal view on matters. I just don't see why I couldn't let someone have access to my net connection through my WiFi Network?
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Lets say for example you do let someone use your net connection. And they use it for something illegal such as phising. Who gets the blame? You do.

You also said "if I see someone" when they are using your network. What if your asleep and you dont. You cant monitor it when your in bed, so you cant decide who can and who cannot use it.

For all we know there could be a guy driving around in a van with a laptop hooked up just waiting for some poor mug to have his wireless network unlocked.

He then hooks up, links in. Pulls out his list of stolen credit card details and starts using your net connection to send out orders for stuff sending it to unmarked PO Boxes.

The credit card company contacts the stores, they send the transaction details including your Static IP. They contact Plusnet, shut you down and the police arrive on your doorstep.

It may seem a little far-fetched but who is to say it wont happen. And if it does there is no way of turning back the clock.

Here we go:

http://management.silicon.com/government/0,39024677,39150672,00.htm

It happens. There are alot more cases like this in USA where expert hackers were the culprits and not just a random guy on the street.
davepye
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I guess you're the sort of person who also worries about flying on a plane!
I don't want to cause any offense, I'm mearly asking for opinions on the matter and that you're sharing them is cool.
I just don't see the likely hood of this happening to be anywhere near realistic right now.

Why not look at the other side of the coin for a moment, how nice would it be to be able to open up your laptop wherever you are and check your mail, or this forum for instance?
Sure you can't trust everyone but we all go through these quandries in life outside of the internet, but you also can't be so closed off to people you don't know. Lighten up basically.

I'm sure I'll get loads of remarks saying how irresponsible this activity is, and thats VERY grown up of you, but really lighten up.
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Well with Plusnets download limit I dont think I have enough left over for my neighbours to use as well. But more seriously, if other people are using your connection to download illegal material, child pornography, traceable P2P torrens and so forth it would all be going through your phone line.

Attempting to prove it wasnt you that was the downloader would be quite difficult I think.
davepye
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OH you're talking about the large number of pedophiles taking to the street to perform the downloading in public right?Huh
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If someone wants to get in, WEP isn't really going to stop them. It's been broken for a long time. All it'll do is put of the average opportunist.
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Better to be wired all the way, especially if all you're doing is jumping a few feet from your router to your PC.
Having said that, if you're on wireless you should definately enable it. The last thing you want is your neighbourhood paedophile surfing with your IP.

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I guess you're the sort of person who also worries about flying on a plane!
I don't want to cause any offense, I'm mearly asking for opinions on the matter and that you're sharing them is cool.
I just don't see the likely hood of this happening to be anywhere near realistic right now.

You know how many people I know who don't pay for net access because of people not using any encryption?
I think you'd be suprised.
davepye
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What Techno GHETTO do you people live in?
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Off-topic:
I went back-packing in America when I left school for 6 months. Go figure lol.

I cannot believe you are telling me to lighten up lol.

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Gross Negligence n. carelessness in reckless disregard for the safety or lives of others, which is so great it appears to be a conscious violation of other people's rights to safety. It is more than simple inadvertence, but it is just shy of being intentionally evil. If one has borrowed or contracted to take care of another's property, then gross negligence is the failure to actively take the care one would of his/her own property. If gross negligence is found by the trier of fact (judge or jury), it can result in the award of punitive damages on top of general and special damages


I wouldnt like to be the first person found to have commited WiFi Gross Negligence, thats all I have to say. Maybe I need to lighten up, or maybe you just need to wisen up. Its up to debate and its one I care not to be involved in anymore heh.

You asked for opinions and I am simply giving it Wink
davepye
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Like I said I wasn't meaning any offence to anyone.

I just don't think the world would be made much worse by people opening up their networks. It's either that or people have to pay BT even more extortionate charges for Openzone access?
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I understand what your saying, its a good idea in theory but in practice it could be potentially damaging to the payee of the broadband at question.

Anyway isnt a global wireless connection what we have GPRS for? Of course if your meaning a free one.. Then I just dont think its going to happen. Of course the manufacturers of routers could maybe build something inside to allow portions of speed, even a tiny amount to be used for open-access.

So in theory if there are alot of routers all doing small portions of open-access (think of bit-torrent for example, same sort of principle) then for sure its a great idea.

But it comes down to law, would the government allow such a thing as it might be impossible to trace these connections. And the manufacturers, do they think adding something like this to their product would sell it better. If something similar could be done with freeware software I would use it.

Aslong as there is definatly no chance of repercussion annd it had some sort of shaping (much like PN) where certain things could not be done, certain websites couldnt be accessed (much like AOL). Hehe