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Usenet Binaries Ending Soon And I'm Leaving

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Usenet Binaries Ending Soon And I'm Leaving

Now that PN have decided to stop their own in house binaries sever from 3/4/06 there is absolutely no reason for me to stay whatsoever. I've been with PN for almost 18 months which is a lot less than some people but have watched as the service has steadily declined to now what amounts to a complete shambles. PN are constantly moving the goalposts and it's really become a joke.

Removing Binary access to their in-house severs is the last straw, and it was the only reason I was with Plus net. Who the hell uses Usenet text groups anyway?

Hell, why don't PN remove Email (it's been piss poor of late anyway) and everyone can get a hotmail, gmail etc and also scrap FTP, then they can keep on oversubscribing customers for an ever declining service. Just think of all those lovely customers surfing the net and streaming. CS has gone tits up lately a well, I suspect the staff are just as cheesed off as the customers. PN are being blinded by ££££££££'s to the cost of customer satisfaction/quality of service.

I'm REALLY disappointed in PN and will be moving ISP soon. There's only one way PN are going and that's DOWN.
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I know how you feel, but although I am also moveing isp, it is a step I dont take lightly.
The way all this has been handled is a mess, but changes are coming to many internet service providers. the idea of tarffic shaping is in my opinion a brave attempt at trying a new path and may work for some.

The old days are going fast and as the products on this isp no longer suite me I'M off to a new isp, how long ill be there I dont know, but with many only needing the one months notice it wont be a problem if I want or need to change again.
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I want to leave as well, but TBH I've looked around and still can't find an ISP where I can get what I can get with +net for the same price (2mb, static IP, webspace w/ php&mySQL). If I didn't /need/ a static IP then there would be a few choices, but I do, and so I can't really change because I don't want to pay more than I do. Even though they're just incompetent to diagnose faults, they do screw up FAIRLY infrequently in my case (although I am aware, that some people have been experiencing problems with +net for months through no fault of their own).

So I'll hang around a bit longer, but if they keep getting worse I'll have to jump ship but pay more a month to do it.
Studio_Two
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Posts: 106
Registered: 30-07-2007

Usenet Binaries Ending Soon And I'm Leaving

Hello,

Did manage to use the binary service to any great effect?

I found most of the threads to be incomplete and unless you were pretty quick off the mark, the ones that WERE there didn't stay there for too long.

All in all, I found it to be a waste of space. I'm not too bothered that they are cancelling the service. It would be nice to think the resources will be better used elsewhere.

It is worth pointing out that they are not discontinuing UseNet completely, it's just the binary groups that are going.

HTH
Stephen
Ziggur
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Posts: 77
Registered: 31-07-2007

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Who the hell uses Usenet text groups anyway?


I do. Smiley

And, unless I have been writing to myself for several years, so do many other people.
Studio_Two
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Posts: 106
Registered: 30-07-2007

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Who the hell uses Usenet text groups anyway?


I do. Smiley

And, unless I have been writing to myself for several years, so do many other people.


Yes, I also use the text service. It's fine.

For the binary stuff I switched to Astraweb (90Gb for $25 dollars and no expiry is pocket money). IMHO, Binary newsgroups are specialist area and I fully agree with PlusNet on that one. I certainly wouldn't switch serivce providers for the reason you are stating. Where were you thinking of going?


HTH
Stephen
JonnyF
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Posts: 206
Registered: 02-08-2007

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Just think of all those lovely customers surfing the net and streaming.


Steady on a bit, streaming - thats advanced technology round these parts. Did you realise that if all you did was listen to a 128k music stream that would eat up your so called "extremely generous" 15gb allowance - forget downloading anything, newsgroups p2p etc.

Also, why should we have to pay extra for a 3rd party news feed that has always been "part of the PREMIER package" that +net proivide... just plain stinks - as for standard news feeds... well i cant say i can see the attraction.. but thats just my opinion!? Why not scrap the feeds all together.. I'm sure even though a couple of +net customers use it, the vast majority wont mind - and thats EXACTLY the criteria +net have used so far

Jon.
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Running a purely text feed is something worth keeping IMHO. They're used by a lot of people for a lot of things and have been for decades (well, 2 and a bit decades). I am disappointed that PlusNet couldn't keep running their own binary feed and couldn't successfully sell the service to other ISP's as was originally intended, but that's no reason to scrap the text feeds. The resources required to run a purely text feed are far far less than to run a binary feed and I can understand (even if I don't agree with) PlusNet's decision and reasoning.
JonnyF
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Registered: 02-08-2007

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Hehe, if you didnt detect the slight sarcasm, sorry... but the point i was making in part was the fact that +net seem to think its ok to axe a service if the minority use it... i wouldnt be suprised if one day they just axe the text feeds and say "well, only 3% of our users make use of this, and its not worth us keeping it".... even if the service has been around since the birth of the net!

Jon.
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Am I the only one that thinks there should be a drop in price as they are no longer going to supply binary newsgroups? After all when I joined as far as I’m concerned they are part of the service we are paying for, if we now have to pay for an independent newsfeed then surely the price should reflect this, if I cancel my account will the activation fee be wavered?
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The sarcams was detected Wink
As for the suggestion of a drop in price and the points about removal of services, it's been well and truely done to death in a number of threads concerning the discontinuation of the binary feeds. The bottom line is that customers won't recieve any compensation and don't expect e-mail to be removed anytime soon.
manero
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Registered: 21-08-2007

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Am I the only one that thinks there should be a drop in price as they are no longer going to supply binary newsgroups? After all when I joined as far as I’m concerned they are part of the service we are paying for, if we now have to pay for an independent newsfeed then surely the price should reflect this, if I cancel my account will the activation fee be wavered?


spot on mate. the binary newsgroup access was one of the reasons I opted for PN. As they've now decided to remove it, the activation fee SHOULD be waived for people who want to leave.
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I believe PlusNet are waiving any outstanding contracts and so on, but defrerred activation is a different matter as this has been paid to BT by them on your behalf.
JonathanW
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Registered: 02-10-2007

Usenet Binaries Ending Soon And I'm Leaving

Dave has said elsewhere that we're willing to waive an annual contract due to this, but deferred fees have to be paid in full before a MAC key can be generated for someone.
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right

since I joined Plusnet thay have had somewhere between 2 and 3 thousand pounds (that's a conservative estimate) from me. add to this the fact that i have recommended plusnet to everyone who was having ISP problems at one time or another, several of which i know took up my suggestion. I have been with plusnet for over 6 years.

That ends Tonight!

MY request for a MAC key is going in as soon as I press submit. And i will be taking as many of those people as i can with me.