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gm4jjj
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Plusnet mail time wrong

I don't mean to nitpick but some of Plusnet's mail machines are not at the correct time. (Not the time zone).

I get mail at about 10:36 actual time arriving stamped at 10:41

Delivery-Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 09:41:41 +0000
Received: from ptb-relay02.plus.net ([212.159.14.213]) by pih-sunmxcore15.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Hphv2-00061Y-Iw for xxxx@xxxxx.plus.com; Sun, 20 May 2007 09:41:40 +0000
Received: from [zzzz] (helo=[zzz) by ptb-relay02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1HphpP-0006BQ-2m for xx.plus.com; Sun, 20 May 2007 10:35:51 +0100
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Plusnet mail time wrong

There are time lags between servers when sending emails. If you go here and paste the header in then you will see all the hops and delays.
gm4jjj
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Plusnet mail time wrong

Sorry you missed the point - the mail arrives on time, the time stamp is wrong. The clock on the Server is wrong.
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Plusnet mail time wrong

PN timestamps are correct on my emails :lol: Im sure that PN time is sync'ed to a time standard source as I do is with my mail server.

When you review the inbox the time displayed is the time the email was received by the final server. In you example this was 09:41:41 +0000. When the email is open to read the time displayed is when the email is sent, in your example this was 10:35:51 +0100.
gm4jjj
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Plusnet mail time wrong

I'm sorry I disagree in this case i opened the mail at 10:36 and the stamp was 10:41 by the PN server - so it is wrong.
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Plusnet mail time wrong

Unfortunately as all my emails are delvered to my server I cannot check sunmxcore's timestamps. But when you receive the notification for this entry you can reply including the header to prove your point.
gm4jjj
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Plusnet mail time wrong

Yep still wrong I received it before 21:23 it was stamped

Delivery-Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 20:23:16 +0000
Received: from pih-relay06.plus.net ([212.159.14.133]) by pih-sunmxcore11.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Hprvw-0005mk-7r for xxx; Sun, 20 May 2007 20:23:16 +0000
Received: from [xxx (helo=pih-portal08.plus.net) by pih-relay06.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1Hprsc-0006M2-1z for xxx.plus.com; Sun, 20 May 2007 21:19:50 +0100
gm4jjj
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Plusnet mail time wrong

I have also checked my time here against MSF just in case I had a rogue NTP.

Maybe I should get PN to send me next week's lottery numbers before they come out? Cheesy
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Plusnet mail time wrong

Yep look like you are right. Below is the header from the notification. 3 hops with zero seconds delay!!! But time received agree with the final timestamp.

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Received: from ptb-relay01.plus.net ([212.159.14.212]) by mail.xxxxxxxxxx.me.uk
with SMTP (Code-Crafters Ability Mail Server 2.5Cool;
Sun, 20 May 2007 21:24:15 +0100
Received: from [192.168.97.38] (helo=fhw-portal05.plus.net)
by ptb-relay01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1Hprwt-0001bD-4P
for postmaster@pchambers.plus.com; Sun, 20 May 2007 21:24:15 +0100
Received: from www-data by fhw-portal05.plus.net with local (Exim 4.63)
(envelope-from <www-data@fhw-portal05.plus.net>)
id 1Hprwt-0004oz-1e
for postmaster@pchambers.plus.com; Sun, 20 May 2007 21:24:15 +0100
To: Undisclosed-recipients:;
Subject: Topic Reply Notification - Plusnet mail time wrong
Reply-to: support@plus.net
From: support@plus.net
Message-ID: <4e6917373cb9ee8509a5d576fa18f3f4@portal.plus.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 21:24:15 +0100
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
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gm4jjj
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Plusnet mail time wrong

Yep, looks like they have a bad NTP at PN on those final servers. It can get confusing if the mail arrives before it is timestamped so they should really fix it.

I wonder if I should raise a ticket? - no perhaps I'll leave it for now as they have plenty other things to fix just now :lol:
blowdart
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Plusnet mail time wrong

I used to sync to ntp.plus.net but frankly it's as unreliable as , hmm, their cgi or email servers
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Plusnet mail time wrong

Are you aware that that is not an official service :!:

Chilly
gm4jjj
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Plusnet mail time wrong

Chillypenguin: - do you mean their NTP or their email service?

I don't use their NTP, but do use the email and expect the mail to be time stamped correctly.
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NTP or their email service?


LoL!

Sorry I was referring to the NTP server Honest Cheesy

Chilly
blowdart
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Plusnet mail time wrong

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Are you aware that that is not an official service


Oh yes; but then NTP isn't hard to keep running at all. Of course you could argue email isn't hard to keep running. Or CGI. It's just symptomatic of the problems plusnet have in offering anything but limited bandwidth.