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How about some free Parental Controls?

Mousemat
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Registered: 30-07-2007

How about some free Parental Controls?

Other ISP's offer it, why cant PlusNet?
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How about some free Parental Controls?

How much value really are those parental controls?

Most kids I know would be able to circumvent most controls quicker than you could set them up Smiley

And failing that they'll try to guess your password etc Smiley
Mousemat
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Registered: 30-07-2007

Not always the case

I am currently running Norton, and it stops them every time.
Passwords are supposed to be a secret, and they have never worked mine out.

Besides, what are the alternatives, let them look at unsuitable stuff?
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Registered: 05-04-2007

How about some free Parental Controls?

Trust them? I am only sixteen and I may be the exception rather than the rule but we have never had parental control software in the six years we have had the internet my Mum always trusted me and I never looked at any dodgy or inappropriate sites. All the computers we have ever had have been mine given as birthday or christmas presents or old ones given when my Grandad was finished with them. I am of the opinion that the more you tell children not to do something the more they will do it, this is not to say you shouldn't impose restrictions on the use of the internet but why not explain why those restrictions are in place.

Ignore me if you want but you know the above makes sense ;-)
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How about some free Parental Controls?

I agree totaly, let the kids do what they want, sit them down once, and inform them that giving out personal details is a bad idea, and explain why, dont just say its a bad idea. Also explain if anyone offers to meet up with them online, then ask them to tell the perants // and make sure they know about it (yes it may be always said to be a bad idea to meet some one, but hey if they have known them awhile etc)

as for porn - omg! kids will see this sooner or later, there is no harm in it, and its natural, any filters you put in can be easily curumvented by proxies // ftp // ssh etc and just doing it remotely.

And what else is there on the net that is "bad"? finding it out for themselves and learning good from bad will give them valuable life skills, and will also not make them resentfull to the perants for not letting them do what they want.
Mousemat
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Registered: 30-07-2007

Missing the Point

I have 2 kids, as 15 year old boy (all the comments above I undersatnd, and to a point agree with) and an 11 year old boy.

My suggestion is not to take on Symantec, but to make it a little more challenging for an 11 year old to type in "p0rn" in a search engine.

I agree they will see it sooner or later, but should we make it easy.

Would you give your 14 year old daughter c0mdoms on the same basis?

I think not.
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Re: Missing the Point

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make it a little more challenging for an 11 year old to type in "p0rn" in a search engine.
Cut their fingers off?
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How about some free Parental Controls?

They'll use voice recognition. If it's not installed they'll sue the manufacturer under the disablilty discrimination act! Tongue
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Not just kids!

Hi,

I actually want to use this for my 27 year old step brother who uses the family business PC's to look at porn and gamble ALL day.

I currently use paid for software, but would prefer if I could just turn it off at the source, ie. Plusnet.

Just have a tool that allows you to bans all URL's with "XXX", "BET" etc.

Come on Plusnet, how hard is thatHuh

Especially now other ISP's are offering it, as well as 8-10mb lines as standard!
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How about some free Parental Controls?

Maybe some clever cloggs at plus could develop their own browser based on firefox, to compete with AOL, i.e. have parental controls etc, but be easy to remove...
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How about some free Parental Controls?

Quite a few routers allow you to block sites based on keywords. There is plenty of parental control software around e.g. net nanny. However even with password protection there are plenty of programs which can kill other programs.
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How about some free Parental Controls?

mousemat - yes I would because teaching a 14 year old kid about sex education is
1) a lot cheeper than a baby
2) a lot less stress than a baby
3) a lot less life iterfearing than a baby on her part

she may have no need for them untill 16 - 17 but at least she will know what to do etc... the amount of questions to the nannie pages in the sun etc just shows how uneducated kids are eg : "can you get pregnant standing up" , "can you get pregnant the first time you have sex" etc etc
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Re: Not just kids!

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I actually want to use this for my 27 year old step brother who uses the family business PC's to look at porn and gamble ALL day.


Why don't you just stop him from using your computers?! Or just password them? You can do this easily with NT/2000/XP. As for 95/98/ME, just upgrade to one of the above.
moorhouses
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How about some free Parental Controls?

Nice solution I used at my last workplace - WIndows has a file called Hosts.
On XP its in C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc\
It is basically the list that your computer looks at for resolving domain names before looking at DNS servers.
You can then enter the URL of the site that he's looking at, and put it against some other random IP, or even your own IP (127.0.0.1). This will stop him getting to that site, avoid lengthy or possibly costly software installations and setups, and you have a list of the blocked sites if you get stuck! You also dont have to reboot.

You enter the lines in the format:
216.239.59.147 www.plus.net

To test, try going to www.plus.net after saving the file, it even works on google, and you only have to enter the main domain name (www.something.com)

Have fun Wink
moorhouses
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Registered: 30-07-2007

How about some free Parental Controls?

Oh! DONT REMOVE THE LOCAL HOST LINE
your computer uses it to run loopback tests amongst other things