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bj
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Registered: 08-08-2007

Downloading at 0.2KB/s

I'm trying to download a Flashplayer plugin for Firefox. It's coming down at 0.2KB/s from www.adobe.com.

Is this PN throttling again?

I'm on BB+
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jnwright
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Registered: 05-04-2007

Downloading at 0.2KB/s

You seem to be unlucky - mine came in at 1kB/sec on Saturday evening. It isn't an ordinary HTTP download as a quick check at the time using netstat revealed it was using ports 1180 and 1205 at the time so the wonderful Ellacoyas slow it down to less than a snail's pace. Adobe website needs to change to make it any faster - perhaps Plusnet would like to ask themHuh? Firefox itself came down at a reasonable speed earlier on Saturday evening.
bj
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Registered: 08-08-2007

Downloading at 0.2KB/s

Ah. I'm used (sigh) to PN crippling FTP but this did look like an HTTP connection to me. Many thanks for the explaination.

0.2KB/s is throttling to a rediculous level. I think i'll go back to dial-up. It's quicker.

Many thanks.
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Downloading at 0.2KB/s

Hmm.. i can't even open the adobe page...

Um.. oh geez... I think i know why it times out....

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C:\Users\JamesUK>nslookup www.adobe.com
Non-authoritative answer:
Name: www.adobe.com
Address: 192.150.18.60


C:\Users\JamesUK>ping 192.150.18.60

Pinging 192.150.18.60 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 192.150.18.60: bytes=32 time=595ms TTL=242
Reply from 192.150.18.60: bytes=32 time=987ms TTL=242

Ping statistics for 192.150.18.60:
Packets: Sent = 2, Received = 2, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 595ms, Maximum = 987ms, Average = 791ms
Control-C
^C
C:\Users\JamesUK>
C:\Users\JamesUK>tracert 192.150.18.60

Tracing route to www.adobe.com [192.150.18.60]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms voyager.home [***.***.***.***]
2 858 ms 338 ms 20 ms lo0-plusnet.ptn-ag2.plus.net [195.166.128.53]
3 851 ms 243 ms 1305 ms ge1-0-0-204.ptn-gw1.plus.net [84.92.3.105]
4 1143 ms 1034 ms 823 ms ge-4-1.metro2-londencyh00.London1.Level3.net [21
2.113.11.41]
5 880 ms 754 ms 821 ms so-1-2-0.gar2.London1.Level3.net [212.113.0.118]

6 607 ms 337 ms 28 ms ae-0-52.bbr2.London1.Level3.net [4.68.116.34]
7 375 ms 593 ms 285 ms as-0-0.bbr1.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.68.128.106]
8 329 ms 715 ms 289 ms ae-13-53.car3.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.68.97.82]
9 877 ms 533 ms 1091 ms ggr2-p360.n54ny.ip.att.net [192.205.33.93]
10 851 ms 908 ms 1465 ms tbr1-p010401.n54ny.ip.att.net [12.123.3.57]
11 998 ms 746 ms 1208 ms tbr1-cl14.cgcil.ip.att.net [12.122.10.2]
12 1091 ms 825 ms 944 ms tbr1-cl1.sffca.ip.att.net [12.122.10.6]
13 1210 ms 250 ms 560 ms gar17-p360.sffca.ip.att.net [12.123.12.33]
14 731 ms 166 ms 186 ms ge4-2.3.cr02.sjo01.pccwbtn.net [12.119.139.18]
15 393 ms 609 ms 676 ms 192.150.18.11
16 1167 ms 1316 ms 1177 ms www.adobe.com [192.150.18.60]
jnwright
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Downloading at 0.2KB/s

I can open the page OK.

My pings:

Reply from 192.150.18.60: bytes=32 time=191ms TTL=243
Reply from 192.150.18.60: bytes=32 time=190ms TTL=243
Reply from 192.150.18.60: bytes=32 time=190ms TTL=243
Reply from 192.150.18.60: bytes=32 time=191ms TTL=243

Ping statistics for 192.150.18.60:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 190ms, Maximum = 191ms, Average = 190ms

My traceroute after it hits Plusnet's gateway followed different route from yours:

2 45 ms 45 ms 46 ms lo0-plusnet.ptn-ag2.plus.net [195.166.128.53]
3 45 ms 43 ms 44 ms ge1-0-0-204.ptn-gw1.plus.net [84.92.3.105]
4 45 ms 44 ms 45 ms ge-4-1.metro2-londencyh00.London1.Level3.net [212.113.11.41]
5 44 ms 46 ms 47 ms so-1-2-0.gar2.London1.Level3.net [212.113.0.118]
6 45 ms 44 ms 45 ms ae-0-54.bbr2.London1.Level3.net [4.68.116.98]
7 110 ms 111 ms 110 ms ae-0-0.bbr2.NewYork1.Level3.net [64.159.1.42]
8 111 ms 111 ms 111 ms ae-23-54.car3.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.68.97.114]
9 113 ms 112 ms 110 ms att-level3-oc192.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.68.127.150]
10 183 ms 184 ms 186 ms tbr1-p010401.n54ny.ip.att.net [12.123.3.57]
11 192 ms 192 ms 193 ms tbr1-cl14.cgcil.ip.att.net [12.122.10.2]
12 193 ms 192 ms 194 ms tbr1-cl1.sffca.ip.att.net [12.122.10.6]
13 191 ms 191 ms 193 ms 12.123.12.57
14 193 ms 192 ms 193 ms ge4-2.3.cr02.sjo01.pccwbtn.net [12.119.139.18]
15 192 ms 192 ms 194 ms 192.150.18.11
16 192 ms 192 ms 192 ms 192.150.18.60

Trace complete.

I'm on interleaved MaxADSL and expect extra latency!
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Downloading at 0.2KB/s

I've had all sorts of problems with adobe.com for the last few days.

I've had 5 or 6 machines to rebuild. Each time I try to install flash it takes an age to get to the ActiveX pop-up (30mins sometimes!)

I guessed its an adobe problem, but I guess it could be a PN problem....?
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Downloading at 0.2KB/s

adobe problem. i got 500k+ on a non-adobe download one minute and 5k the next from adobe.
I've seen quite a few complaints on forums worldwide about their service at the moment
try filehippo instead, they have the latest releases
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Coolio! I'll have a look, hopefully they'll have a standalone installer for flash. (everywhere else I've looked it just links back to adobe Cry )
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just remembered i posted about this recently. i was getting .3KB/s from adobe ...

Filehippo should have exactly what you want (i downloaded it from there too) although i did notice the installer file was smaller than the one on the native adobe site. however it installed with no problem and is working fine for me

they also have bags of other free software with brand new betas and RCs as well as archives of old versions for compatibility problems.
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Defo worthwhile! Just installed it in about 10secs from filehippo - much better than the adobe schmuck.
deadkenny
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Same problem here. 0.9kB/sec downloading flash from adobe.

I have a lot of problems with FTP downloads from many sites too, though I think Adobe is downloading via HTTP.

I'll try File Hippo, but are they safe? (i.e. can I trust the files to not be infected?).
sophos9
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The net is at bursting point, we need to jump to IPv6
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@tjmoore -- i haven't heard of any problems with file hippo, nor had any myself; they've been around for ages, although i'd forgotten about them until i rediscovered them ... and you're quite right adobe is an http d/l .
craiglay
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The adobe website can be very changable... Even the SDSL connections in the sites I work in exhibit slowdowns here..

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The net is at bursting point, we need to jump to IPv6


I agree... IPv6 wont make any difference to net speed, only the amount of devices on the internet. As we get faster net speeds at home it puts more strain on the internet beyond the ISP.

Craig
deadkenny
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IPv6 wouldn't make a difference in terms of the address range it allows. There are already sufficient workarounds that means IPv6 isn't really required at the moment in terms of lack of addresses. More devices isn't necessarily the answer anyway. Better quality devices and backbone networks perhaps. Though the major problem is the changing use of the Internet.

Anyway, tried File Hippo and it does fly. I suspect it's just Adobe's servers that are struggling (or rather the Macromedia servers which I suspect are being neglected at the moment since Adobe bought them).

I was wondering if PlusNet were the cause but as this is an HTTP download and File Hippo is okay along with many other sites then I doubt it's them. FTP on the other hand I can understand as almost all FTP downloads on PlusNet are painful now.