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When are we going to get IPv6?

kevio
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Registered: ‎12-09-2014

When are we going to get IPv6?

Please can someone tell me what the roadmap for IPv6 is? I called support and they don't have a clue! Not even an official statement!
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LinnPlusnet
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Re: When are we going to get IPv6?

Hi kevio,
We've had an ongoing IPv6 trial, however, we are not accepting new applications at the moment. Our support team wouldn't be able to inform any further as there isn't an official release date. It's worth having a look at the IPv6 trial section of the Forums (http://community.plus.net/forum/index.php/board,70.0.html) and once there's anything official we'll make it publicly known.
Sorry it's not better news Sad
AlaricAdair
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Re: When are we going to get IPv6?

Give PN time, after all IPv6 has only been known about for 6 months(?)  Lips_are_sealed
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avatastic
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Re: When are we going to get IPv6?

Try 16 years, not 6 months.
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Anteaus
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Re: When are we going to get IPv6?

Quote from: avatastic
Try 16 years, not 6 months.

That is THE problem. IPv6 is basically out of date, and needs to be rethought-out from the ground up. That is why it has such low uptake. It dates from the era of publicly-visible desktop computers with an ISP-assigned IP address on each computer. Since that time we've moved on to NAT routers which offer far better security than an open two-way connection on every desktop. Nobody wants to go back to that way of working.
That, and needless complexity. The actual requirement was for one or two more octets on the node identifier. That was all. Naturally, being an IT project they had to strap-on a three-deck pinball table as well, though, and by doing so turn a simple solution into an unholy mess that very few people fully understand. 
dragon2611
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Re: When are we going to get IPv6?

The only thing that makes NAT slightly more secure is the fact that if the NAT doesn't know what device to forward a inbound request onto then it will usually just drop it.
Also NAT is evil it breaks things and requires all sorts of nasty hacks for various protocols.
Just because a Device has a publicly routed IP address it doesn't mean it has to be wide open to the internet, Stick it behind a firewall job done.
In-fact any sanely designed SOHO router should be configured to drop unsolicited inbound traffic from the internet by default regardless of if the devices behind it are Natted or not.
Edit: Removed quote of proceeding post.
matthews
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Re: When are we going to get IPv6?

Quote from: Anteaus
That, and needless complexity. The actual requirement was for one or two more octets on the node identifier. That was all. Naturally, being an IT project they had to strap-on a three-deck pinball table as well, though, and by doing so turn a simple solution into an unholy mess that very few people fully understand.  

While we're at it, why did the world decide we need cars? All the public wanted were faster horses!
Adding two octets would still have involved replacing every piece of hardware and software that uses the internet, so why not take the opportunity to actually make some improvements (and make the number large enough that it will be a very long time before we need to add any more). IPv4 was designed before the era of streaming TV (so multicast support is lacking) and home networks (so self-addressing without a DHCP server is very crippled) and the number of devices outnumbering the number of humans.