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13-04-2010 8:58 AM
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I'm very new to all this and still learning and so I would appreciate any help you can offer.
Thanks
Re: pppoe
13-04-2010 9:14 AM
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PPPoE certainly works for me on 21CN/ADSL2+. (I tried it once when someone said it might be more stable. I don't know if that's true but I kept it - even though my line is now more stable than it used to be - as I quite like using the same system as most of Europe. Others may of course prefer British individualism/isolation) The only downside is that sometimes after a resync at my end it takes several (5-7) minutes for PPP to be re-established after the basic ADSL line comes up. I don't know if that's a universal experience.
The only thing you have to remember when configuring PPPoE is to adjust your multiplex setting to LLC rather than VC.
I don't think it's exchange-specific (apart from the exchange supporting 21CN).
Graham
Re: pppoe
13-04-2010 9:17 AM
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As Graham says the chances are if you are on 21CN or ADSL2+ the chances are this should work. However please bear in mind that this is not guaranteed as the majority of BT wholesale's ADSL network uses PPP over ATM still.
Re: pppoe
13-04-2010 9:27 AM
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Any thoughts on the approapriate kit would be welcome.
Thanks again
Re: pppoe
13-04-2010 9:41 AM
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As staff we can't really recommend any particular make or model other than the Thomson Speedtouch 585V7 and ST510 that we currently offer with our packages. However I'm sure the other guys on here would be happy to give you some recommendations.
Re: pppoe
13-04-2010 10:06 AM
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If you are using separate modem and router then the Linksys router has to use PPPoE - it's not directly connected to the ATM network so can't use PPPoA. In this case the E in PPPoE refers to the ethernet link between the router and the modem. The Voyager in bridge mode handles the ATM traffic and acts as a bridge to enable PPP traffic to pass between it's ATM and ethernet interfaces. As far as BT/PN are concerned you're still using PPPoA.
Quote from: Blakie As far as I can see both the Linksys and DD-WRT only support pppoe rather than the recommended pppoa.
A number of people use this setup - see http://forums.thinkbroadband.com/freenetname/3022126-voyager-210-and-linksys-wrt54g-router.html which in turn refers to http://www.puzbie.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=143 (although this example contradicts itself in section 8 where it says to use LLC-SNAP but all subsequent screen prints show VC-MUX being used - I'd stick with VC-MUX).
Alternatively can't you use the Voyager as a normal modem/router and then use the Linksys just as an ethernet switch and wireless access point (eg disable DHCP)? This could possibly be a bit simpler depending on your requirements.
Re: pppoe
13-04-2010 12:23 PM
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MrC - Thanks for the links, coincidentaly I had found the Puzbie site but was confused as the router used for the test was a Netgear Mimo which supports pppoa, but your link to the chap with the Linksys problem has resolved that issue - many thanks for that. As to DHCP I think I will need to turn it off on the modem as I am trying to achieve Wlan separate from Lan with independent DHCP using DD-WRT commands and scripts which I presume will all be dealt with by that firmware in the router.
As soon as I pop down to Wales I will implement your advice using the original Linksys firmware and see how things work out.
If anyone can offer any help on DD-WRT then please step forward. I've still got a lot ot learn!!
Once again thank you to all for your advice and assistance
Re: pppoe
13-04-2010 12:45 PM
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Re: pppoe
13-04-2010 2:46 PM
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Where do these variable emerge? In the exchange or at the servers or is it more complex than this?
I would appreciate your views as the support staff seem to lean towards pppoa
Thanks
Re: pppoe
13-04-2010 3:05 PM
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If you want to use the Voyager as a DSL modem to front-end your Linksys router then the router has to use PPPoE. The router cannot use PPPoA in this configuration. Configure your modem to use bridge mode, VC-MUX and the normal VPI & VCI.
Quote from: Blakie I would appreciate your views as the support staff seem to lean towards pppoa
As I mentioned earlier you may find it easier to use your Voyager as a straight-forward modem/router and use the Linksys as a switch and wireless access point.
Re: pppoe
13-04-2010 3:30 PM
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I will follow your advice and appreciate your help. My question was regarding pppoa versus pppoe and the comments before your own from the moderator who suggests that pppoe works all over the BT network and has for several years.
As I mentioned earlier I am not sure if I am to go down the Wlan separate fron Lan route with DD-WRT whether or not I should employ the DHCP server on the modem or that within the DD-WRT firmware.
Still learning, and you will appreciate that the reason for my original post was because there appears to be some conflicting advice elsewhere and consequently your original post with links appears to have resolved that issue AND I don't have to buy anymore equipment - thank you. You may be interested to know that this project is to allow two pensioners to share an internet connection, but with separate networks to ensure complete privacy. I know this can be done with routers, but I understand this causes problems with port forwarding
Thanks to all for taking up their time to address this issue
Re: pppoe
14-04-2010 11:47 AM
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All I know is that when I tried to run PPPoE and VC Mux it didn't work. When I switched to LLC it did work. However, this is just for a single modem/router configuration. Things may be different if you're using the router in bridging mode. Try both ways and see what works.
(The puzbie post says in text no.7 that the following screenshot is wrong and needs updating.)
Interesting to hear that PPPoE also works with the 20CN. I didn't know that.
Graham
Re: pppoe
14-04-2010 12:00 PM
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Re: pppoe
14-04-2010 12:19 PM
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My recommendation will be to set the Voyager in full bridge and not half bridge. You will know this by the fact that you have to use PPPoE on the linksys and the external IP address get passed to the Linksys. With the Voyager in full bridge or other setting DHCP etc should be ignored.
I was also using a Linksys running DD-WRT when I was using PPPoE and I do miss some of the features especially the graphing of traffic on the WAN, WLAN and LAN.
Re: pppoe
14-04-2010 3:28 PM
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My impression is that PPPoE availability heavily depends on the exchange equipment - for 20CN, some is enabled and some is not. For 21CN they should all be enabled
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