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stathe
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Re: maxed- yesterday

Tonights connection speed is even better and seems constant
can I expect it to get much higher ?
 
System Up Time 31:11:11
Port Status TxPkts RxPkts Collisions Tx B/s Rx B/s Up Time
WAN PPPoA 4873 5578 0 2087 8225 00:12:04
LAN 10M/100M 130979 106427 0 1337 254 31:11:07
WLAN 11M/54M 842 0 0 1 0 31:10:58

ADSL Link Downstream Upstream
Connection Speed 1600 kbps 448 kbps
Line Attenuation 63 db 15.5 db
Noise Margin 6 db 11 db

pcoventry76
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Re: maxed- yesterday

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I was maxed yesterday ,and my speed was 470 James altered my profile and I had a stable 940 all day . I reconected this morning and am back to 470 can you do as you did yesterday
I rather wish I had left it on all night
 
System Up Time 00:31:58
Port Status TxPkts RxPkts Collisions Tx B/s Rx B/s Up Time
WAN PPPoA 5554 6080 0 328 2857 00:30:30
LAN 10M/100M 6520 6035 0 2872 413 00:31:54
WLAN 11M/54M 78 0 0 5 0 00:31:45

ADSL Link Downstream Upstream
Connection Speed 1408 kbps 448 kbps
Line Attenuation 63 db 15.5 db
Noise Margin 6 db 11 db

A decent and improved connection speed but my speed on the speed tester still shows around 460  470
Am I understanding this properly ?? What should I expect ?? the line so far has been stable
Can you please re-profile me and will not switch off again
Thanks E

is 2MB cheaper than maz? if so i'#d do that or even 1MB as that's all your getting. well near to 1.5mb
James
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Re: maxed- yesterday

Not with us.  Whether you're on a fixed rate product or max, the subscription costs are the same.  Unless I'm horribly mistaken (having a confused blonde moment) the prices from BT Wholesale are also the same.
stathe
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Re: maxed- yesterday

Well I want to do as well as I can and I only had 512 before and dont know what I will finish with, though the connection is rock solid .My  socket was replaced by B.T I have pulled out the orange wire,the results werent as good after removeing the face plate. Can I realisticaly do any better other than to run new wire from the pole to the sovcket
stathe
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Well disaster has now struck. This morning we had a few short power cuts, my netgear disconnected and I have strugled to connect at any speed near the 1600 it was, and it is now just over 1100, but my download speed is only 200  or so what can I do about this ?? Thanks  E

 
System Up Time 00:27:17
Port Status TxPkts RxPkts Collisions Tx B/s Rx B/s Up Time
WAN PPPoA 890 829 0 811 1837 00:05:42
LAN 10M/100M 4960 4990 0 2579 1386 00:27:13
WLAN 11M/54M 84 0 0 7 0 00:27:04

ADSL Link Downstream Upstream
Connection Speed 1152 kbps 448 kbps
Line Attenuation 63 db 15.5 db
Noise Margin 9 db 11 db

stathe
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Re: maxed- yesterday

My B.T. Test this morning and similar yesterday

Test1 comprises of Best Effort Test: -provides background information.
    IP profile for your line is - *135 kbps*
    DSL connection rate: *448 kbps*(UP-STREAM)  * 1248 kbps*(DOWN-STREAM)
    Actual IP throughput achieved during the test was - *126 kbps*
This was after another power cut , Birds  (Duck Shooting started Yesterday)I presume I will just have to stay connected and hope for the best, my downstream during most of last week was 1600  I fear someone has set this lower and short of trying reconnections, which may worsen my profile ,and presume I am still in my test period  I dont know the best way to improve it. Any Ideas  Kind Regards  E
spraxyt
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Re: maxed- yesterday

Your 10-day test period should be drawing to a close now, perhaps best to allow another couple of days.  Your line may well have been judged to be a "difficult" one.
Extra monitoring is done in the training period but even in normal operation the exchange equipment (DLM) monitors the performance of your line (sync speed and transmission error rates) and reacts accordingly.
Quoting from Kitz - "The DLM continually monitors your sync speed and line performance... and the system should react to any decreases within 75 minutes and any increases within 3 days."  You will note it's "fast" on the way down but unfortunately "slow" on the way up.  Experience suggests restarting the router once per day may persuade the DLM to react slightly less slowly; however it should react even without a restart so, in principle, restarting and not restarting are equivalent.  The risk from restarting is that the re-sync will be at a lower speed - then you wish you hadn't done it.
Perhaps the previous paragraph might explain why you get conflicting advice on restarting or not restarting - neither is "right" and neither is "wrong" - optimists restart, pessimists don't.  My preference is to try a daily restart, but I would check the noise margin first and *not* do it if the (downstream) value is under 6dB or close to that figure.  That reduces the risk of being caught out by a lower sync speed, what might be called the "realist" approach.
What is best avoided is restarting the router several times over a short period, 30-60 minutes.  For difficult lines the DLM can interpret those as drop-outs and increase the target noise margin to 9dB (or more later) in an effort to stop these happening.  That would reduce sync speed, perhaps even prevent sync with your line, so definitely don't-do for you.
Hope you find these thoughts useful.
David
stathe
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Re: maxed- yesterday

Well thanks for that, the line has in fact recovered and the report is not too bad, almost  twice as fast as my fixed 512 .Should I be happy with this ?Huh
Test1 comprises of Best Effort Test:  -provides background information.
    IP profile for your line is - 1000 kbps
    DSL connection rate: 448 kbps(UP-STREAM)  1280 kbps(DOWN-STREAM)
    Actual IP throughput achieved during the test was - 924 kbps
But not as good as it was before but although I have been optomistic about this , I will not switch off again for a while .I have no control over the short power cuts
Though I fancy if I did switch off my downstream would get to 1600 again  I,m tempted .
spraxyt
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Re: maxed- yesterday

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… Should I be happy with this ?Huh

More information is needed to venture an opinion for that question.  The BT test gives your sync speeds and from previous posts we know your attenuation is very high (in fact some routers won't report more than 63dB).  But what is your current noise margin and how does it vary through 24 hours, particularly through the evening and overnight?
If the noise margin is currently below 6dB restarting will result is a lower sync; if it is above 7dB (say), restarting might give a higher sync speed with noise margin down to 6dB.  If noise margin reduces later below 5dB (say) sync might be lost than regained at a lower speed, that *could* be less than you've got now.  So the net result could be that you lose out.  Only you see the data needed to weigh-up the pros and cons.  If you would like an opinion on here you need to post the complete information.
David
stathe
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Re: maxed- yesterday

This is now
 
System Up Time 60:33:41
Port Status TxPkts RxPkts Collisions Tx B/s Rx B/s Up Time
WAN PPPoA 126031 161431 0 90 838 60:31:57
LAN 10M/100M 164179 129648 0 852 107 60:33:37
WLAN 11M/54M 84 0 0 0 0 06:17:26

ADSL Link Downstream Upstream
Connection Speed 1280 kbps 448 kbps
Line Attenuation 63 db 15.5 db
Noise Margin 5 db 11 db

The noise margin is down to 5 the lowest I have seen, more often 7 and 9
I think I will just leave it, we tend to have short power blips sometimes ,have no control of that Thanks for explaining the noise margin E
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Re: maxed- yesterday


 
System Up Time 60:46:10
Port Status TxPkts RxPkts Collisions Tx B/s Rx B/s Up Time
WAN PPPoA 126597 161913 0 91 836 60:44:26
LAN 10M/100M 167299 130553 0 851 108 60:46:06
WLAN 11M/54M 2357 0 0 4 0 06:29:55

ADSL Link Downstream Upstream
Connection Speed 1280 kbps 448 kbps
Line Attenuation 63 db 15.5 db
Noise Margin 7 db 11 db

As I said more often 7
spraxyt
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Re: maxed- yesterday

I think your decision to leave things alone was the right one.
It looks like the sync speed you have now may well be around the sustainable rate you can achieve.  By that I mean sync should be maintained through the 24 hours as confirmed by the 60 hours uptime you posted.
David
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Re: maxed- yesterday

What interests me is the massive difference between upstream and downstream attenuation. Whilst upstream is always (unless there's a random fault) lower than downstream, the difference on your is more than I'd expect.
However, to be fair, the sync speeds you're getting are pretty decent for that length of line.
stathe
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Re: maxed- yesterday

I presume there are two wires ,somewhere, so does that mean that one is very good or one is very bad ? or doesn,t it work like that. Should I ask B.T
stathe
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Re: maxed- yesterday

I have been maxed now for abot a fortnight and my stats are now

 
System Up Time 66:43:32
Port Status TxPkts RxPkts Collisions Tx B/s Rx B/s Up Time
WAN PPPoA 98491 121160 0 82 631 59:56:57
LAN 10M/100M 14819 9589 0 30 8 66:43:28
WLAN 11M/54M 129044 103358 0 647 85 59:56:42

ADSL Link Downstream Upstream
Connection Speed 1248 kbps 448 kbps
Line Attenuation 63 db 15.5 db
Noise Margin 7 db 11 db

Test1 comprises of Best Effort Test: -provides background information.
    IP profile for your line is - *1000 kbps*
    DSL connection rate: *448 kbps*(UP-STREAM)  * 1248 kbps*(DOWN-STREAM)
    Actual IP throughput achieved during the test was - *441 kbps*
If you wish to discuss these results please contact your ISP.
I was full of hope at the start with a speed near 1000 and at that time a stable line for several days This all went awry after a few small power cuts and my trying to re -connect after these. I now seem to have a stable line albeit lower but my speed is no better than my previous fixed speed . If I can do no better should I revert to fixed 512 ?
Now if I disconect  I presume I shall spend a day or so at 130 if so I would be better on fixed .
I still feel I should be able to do better