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court ordered blocked sites

do plusnet supply a list of the sites they have blocked due to court orders?
sky do - http://help.sky.com/security/privacy/our-approach-to-protecting-copyright/
so do plusnet do the same?
if not, why not?
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Re: court ordered blocked sites

Because Plusnet aren't covered by those court orders and as far as I know haven't received any others
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Re: court ordered blocked sites

they are currently blocking TPB as far as i am aware.
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Re: court ordered blocked sites

No they aren't - if you read here you will see that it is a peering problem http://community.plus.net/forum/index.php/topic,117175.0.html
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Re: court ordered blocked sites

an 8 day peering problem?
are we getting the real reason here or is this a cover story?
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Re: court ordered blocked sites

Well the fact that a tracert transits onto the BT retail network and hits their filter would suggest that it's  due to something of this nature because Plusnet  operates independently  to BT retail  or should do , the exact same thing has happened previously last year, iirc the last time it took them several weeks to sort it out, TBH though it should of been configured so it never re-occurred again IMO ,Maybe this time  they will configure this properly if that's at all possible
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Re: court ordered blocked sites

@ deathtrap
It fails from all the major peers - so it is nothing to do with BT. Try their 'looking glasses' and see. Every traceroute is failing inside ntt's network (including BT) so is either a problem with the site hosting tpb or a peering issue with ntt.
Edit: Just to back up with it not being a BT problem...
Traceroute results from London, England (2)
to 194.71.107.27(194.71.107.27)
  1 ae-15-15.edge3.London2.Level3.net (4.69.200.85) 0 msec 0 msec 0 msec
  2 ae-3-3.ebr1.Paris1.Level3.net (4.69.141.86) 8 msec 8 msec 8 msec
  3 ae-91-91.csw4.Paris1.Level3.net (4.69.161.90) 8 msec
    ae-61-61.csw1.Paris1.Level3.net (4.69.161.7Cool 8 msec
    ae-81-81.csw3.Paris1.Level3.net (4.69.161.86) 8 msec
  4 4.69.168.199 8 msec
    4.69.168.135 8 msec
    4.69.168.199 8 msec
  5 NTT-level3-2x10G.Paris.Level3.net (4.68.63.11Cool 8 msec 8 msec 8 msec
  6 ae-2.r21.parsfr01.fr.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.2.21Cool [AS2914 {NTTC-GIN-AS}] 4 msec 8 msec 8 msec
  7 as-4.r22.amstnl02.nl.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.3.84) [AS2914 {NTTC-GIN-AS}] 16 msec 12 msec 16 msec
  8 ae-1.r02.amstnl02.nl.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.2.113) [AS2914 {NTTC-GIN-AS}] 20 msec 20 msec 20 msec
  9 xe-4-1.r02.dsdfge01.de.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.2.65) [AS2914 {NTTC-GIN-AS}] 24 msec 24 msec 20 msec
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    xe-3-4.r00.dsdfge02.de.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.5.173) [AS2914 {NTTC-GIN-AS}] 20 msec 24 msec
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Tracing the route to thepiratebay.se (194.71.107.27)
  1 if-1-3-1-0.tcore1.LDN-London.as6453.net (80.231.76.86) 0 msec
    if-2-3-1-0.tcore1.LDN-London.as6453.net (80.231.76.122) 0 msec
    if-1-3-1-0.tcore1.LDN-London.as6453.net (80.231.76.86) 4 msec
  2 195.219.83.186 0 msec 4 msec 0 msec
  3 ae-4.r22.londen03.uk.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.5.24) [AS 2914] [MPLS: Label 463568 Exp 0] 0 msec 0 msec 0 msec
  4 ae-3.r21.frnkge03.de.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.3.13Cool [AS 2914] [MPLS: Label 300032 Exp 0] 16 msec 32 msec 32 msec
  5 ae-1.r02.frnkge03.de.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.4.163) [AS 2914] [MPLS: Label 16051 Exp 0] 20 msec 28 msec 16 msec
  6 xe-3-2.r00.dsdfge02.de.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.5.61) [AS 2914] 24 msec 44 msec 48 msec
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traceroute to 194.71.107.27 (194.71.107.27), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1  ae-0.r22.londen03.uk.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.4.85)  28.755 ms  0.576 ms  0.540 ms
    MPLS Label=778726 CoS=0 TTL=1 S=0
    MPLS Label=300032 CoS=0 TTL=1 S=1
2  ae-3.r21.frnkge03.de.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.3.13Cool  18.313 ms  11.943 ms  12.992 ms
    MPLS Label=300032 CoS=0 TTL=1 S=1
3  ae-1.r02.frnkge03.de.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.4.163)  25.861 ms  24.843 ms  24.113 ms
    MPLS Label=16051 CoS=0 TTL=255 S=1
4  xe-3-2.r00.dsdfge02.de.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.5.61)  17.353 ms  14.626 ms  20.607 ms
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Tracing the route to 194.71.107.27
  1 t2c4-xe-1-3-1-0.uk-lon1.eu.bt.net (166.49.135.16) 0 msec 0 msec 0 msec
  2 82.112.101.73 [AS 2914] 0 msec 4 msec 0 msec
  3 ae-6.r22.londen03.uk.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.4.20) [AS 2914] [MPLS: Label 463568 Exp 0] 0 msec
0 msec 0 msec
  4 ae-3.r21.frnkge03.de.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.3.13Cool [AS 2914] [MPLS: Label 300032 Exp 0] 12
msec 12 msec 20 msec
  5 ae-1.r02.frnkge03.de.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.4.163) [AS 2914] [MPLS: Label 16051 Exp 0] 20 msec
12 msec 16 msec
  6 xe-3-2.r00.dsdfge02.de.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.5.61) [AS 2914] 12 msec 16 msec 16 msec
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deathtrap
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Re: court ordered blocked sites

Well the last time a similar issue occured we got the same Tracert results peering onto BT retails platformHuh
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Re: court ordered blocked sites

Our traceroute's from Plusnet don't appear to get anywhere near ntt.net. Perhaps thepiratebay.se doesn't respond to pings so every traceroute from anywhere using ICMP will fail before reaching the destination even when the site is accessible.