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Wishy Washy colours are useless
08-04-2008 5:20 PM
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In the Plain English thread, I refer you to reply number 7 from me....
reply number 8 and also reply number 10....
Whilst you may not consider 3 out of thousands that agree on this matter, perhaps it is possible that the "thousands" have not even seen it....
Wishy Washy colours may be trendy in website production, however, they should be used with care, and as a background only, especially where text is concerned..... The whole idea of text is to "communicate" with the person viewing it..... if the person cannot view it, then what is the point of putting it there in the first place..... if it is an important element of PlusNet operation, then surely it should appear as such. IMPORTANT. or emphasised, not left in the shadows...
Could it be rectified sooner than later.....?
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08-04-2008 5:54 PM
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That is the most appalling piece of website design I have seen in a long time
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08-04-2008 7:38 PM
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08-04-2008 8:20 PM
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Come on Plusnet please rectify this.
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08-04-2008 9:18 PM
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Re: Wishy Washy colours are useless
08-04-2008 10:12 PM
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The point I am trying to make is that IF PlusNet think the information contained in that paragraph is IMPORTANT (not shouting) then it should be readable by the viewer, and not in an indistinct colour.....
The reader of anything on the net, can use the method described to make something more visible, but I think in this case the wishy washy colour it is presented in makes it almost invisible, as others have pointed out.....
Why should we have to correct the error of the website designer?
He / She got paid for doing it.... and it is obviously a problem to more than just me..... so he /she should correct the "mistake" and prove his / her wages were worth paying.....
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08-04-2008 10:16 PM
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Ah-ha! This text is actually not supposed to be read. It's PlusNet's stupid 'search engine optimisation'
I detect a little "tongue in cheek" with that, as I suspect the SEO (search engine optimisation) technques do not recognise the colour of the text, more to do with the actual "content" of the text....
Re: Wishy Washy colours are useless
08-04-2008 10:28 PM
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08-04-2008 10:33 PM
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What we will not do is to potentially affect the volume of search engine traffic to our home page by removing a block of text that is proven to help potential customers find our website. I won't make any apologies on anyone's behalf for wanting new customers find PlusNet on Google, if they are searching for a good deal on broadband.
It's a tricky business is the art of getting your pages ranked highly on Google.. I've blogged about it. You might've read how even celebrities these days are getting into SEO.
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08-04-2008 10:43 PM
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No one is asking that the text should be removed
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What we will not do is to potentially affect the volume of search engine traffic to our home page by removing a block of text that is proven to help potential customers find our website.
What I, and a few others are saying is..... make it readable.... it can`t be that difficult.... the rest of the page is.....
Re: Wishy Washy colours are useless
08-04-2008 10:48 PM
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Peter - I'm not trying to suggest that you should deliberately reduce the number of hits to the website. Nor am I trying to tell you how to design your/PlusNet's website. But I do think that obviously SEO-based text looks tawdry. The text should, IMHO, be reworked so it seems like a proper useful piece of information, and made more visible, or it should be eradicated and other methods found for optimising the page.
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08-04-2008 10:52 PM
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So which point did I miss?
Plusnet puts the information as text..... seo can read black and white (or any combination of colours apparently) so why try to hide it..... The text will still do the same job in readable colour combinations as if it were greyed out to be almost invisible...
That was the point I made in the first place, and I am still sticking to it....
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08-04-2008 10:58 PM
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Quote from: shutter Surely you are not telling me that the SEO can do this? and because it can do this, us humans have to strain our eyes to read the text.
No, I'm saying that the text is made up of 'keywords' that we want to get picked up by Google and thereby increase the likelihood of our page appearing higher up in the results that Google displays. Repeated use of the word 'broadband' makes it more likely that our web will be displayed if you search for "best award winning broadband" for example. Go ahead try it. You'll see that Zen are better 'optimised' for that search phrase than we are.
SEO (search engine optimisation) is the art of getting your web pages ranked higher in Google. That's all it is.. there is always a lot to consider when we make significant changes to a page.
The reason we don't in fact make the text white on white is that some search engines 'understand' that you're trying to affect rankings by placing content purely for SEO purposes.. which brings me around to where I agreed with you in the first place that I think the text should be black and have equal value for humans as well as engines. But that is in the hands of the graphics guys. If I recommend that the text be made a darker grey we'd probably be able to reach a compromise?
Re: Wishy Washy colours are useless
08-04-2008 11:00 PM
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Quote from: shutter The text will still do the same job in readable colour combinations as if it were greyed out to be almost invisible... That was the point I made in the first place, and I am still sticking to it....
Yes, I think we are agreeing with each other on that point.
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08-04-2008 11:52 PM
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Looks like a good reason to me
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