Why do I have to turn on Network Sharing on 582n USB & not on the 582n NON USB

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1^st let me briefly explain for those that do not know what is what.........
Some are you are aware that I have had a new TG582n with USB shipped & arrived & installed this week, due to issue(s) with 2 of the NON USB flavoured TG582n's as discussed in a different thread, & not needing to go into full details here ;).
With the
2 x TG582'ns without USB on Firmware 10.2.2.B EH
I had no reason to turn on network discovery & file sharing on any of my Devices to use the NowTV Roxu box with Plex installed
With the
1 x TG582n with USB on Firmware 8.4.4.J BW
I had to turn on Network Discovery & File Sharing for it to work
I do not like having Network Discovery & File Sharing on
Therefore, what I am asking is
Is there a workaround / setting etc that I may be inadvertently overlooking on the USB TG582n that I can use the Roku with the Network Discovery turned OFF

[#2]

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Is there a workaround / setting etc that I may be inadvertently overlooking on the USB TG582n that I can use the Roku with the Network Discovery turned OFF

I don't think so but I'll aim to find out for you.
I doubt network sharing is turned off on the USB model intentionally but again I'll see if our products guys can shed any light on that for us.
Adam

[#3]

Cheers Adam
Much appreciated
Since it may also help other(s) if they are looking to purchase the USB flavour from 3^rd parties
As I already thought I would of had to.
BTW
A massive thank you

[#4]

If anyone has any ideas then I am all years

[#5]

I think this is very unlikely be the TG582n but a network related issue. I say this as for Plex server and the Roku box to work all you would need is a switch, the router would only be needed for connection out to the internet. All I did with my Roku was connect it to my LAN installed Media Browser on a PC follow a few simple set up options and it worked.
If I read correctly you have had to use a new SSID when you connected up the router, may be this was the cause of the issue as your PC would have identified a new LAN. May be I'm wrong.
I would say I sort of admire the effort you are putting into your issue, but  for some reason this is not the best router for you. If I were you I would have bought something better by now.
Dan.

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Cheers Dandroid
1^st let me clarify to clear up any confusion some may have
1. Double, Triple, Quadrupled changed the SSID etc ==========> (Learnt from them type of noob mistakes long long ago)
1a. Green light in connecting wireless network = ON ==============> Greyed out Connecting to local network (same static IP as normal)
2. The only Change to the whole setup is the Router ===========> As we know the reasons why from my previous thread
3. The 10.2.2.B Firmware Router ========> Plex ==========> Roku, did not require the Networking & File Sharing turned on on any device like this Vista Laptop

Thank you for the admiration
I like to get the most and best out of any bit of kit regardless if it is entry level or as sophisticated as they come
I love troubleshooting & the challenges that comes as a result, & my lad the TG582n is posing  challenge atm , I also get a natural buzz when I am the 1^st to find a Fix / Cure
The quick easy 5 - 10 minute fixes / cures dont do it for me any more (even though ironically I do not have much patience) but getting better as the older I get

[#7]

Quote from: Dandroid

I think this is very unlikely be the TG582n but a network related issue.

A network related issue caused by the 582n probably. Unlikely but possibly something related to the IGMP snooping / proxying in the 582n. More likely it has something to do with the USB firmware resulting in there being a media server running on the 582n.
The other possibility is that it's something to do with the 8.4 vs 10.2 firmware. I believe it's possible to re-configure the 10.2.5 FTTC firmware for use on ADSL connections.

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@ejs
do you mean something like this may be a possibility worth looking into ?
[code=Telnet file=DLNA Server (Media Sharing) Not Discovered Across LAN / WLAN.    SOLVED[] This issue is present in firmware 8.2.7.7  Don't know about other firmware versions.
Command Comments
eth bridge igmpsnooping config View present state.
If state=enabled then apply the fix
eth bridge igmpsnooping config brname=bridge state=disabled Apply fix
saveall Make permanent[/code]
Can you please elaborate more on the suspected USB =======> Media Player
&
Re-Configure FTTC firmware =========> ADSL

[#9]

@_Adam_Walker_
Have you had any feedback as yet ?

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Quote from: TORPC

@ejs do you mean something like this may be a possibility worth looking into ? [code=Telnet file=DLNA Server (Media Sharing) Not Discovered Across LAN / WLAN.    SOLVED[] This issue is present in firmware 8.2.7.7  Don't know about other firmware versions. Command Comments eth bridge igmpsnooping config View present state. If state=enabled then apply the fix eth bridge igmpsnooping config brname=bridge state=disabled Apply fix saveall Make permanent[/code] Can you please elaborate more on the suspected USB =======> Media Player & Re-Configure FTTC firmware =========> ADSL

@TORPC
This is the fix I had to use on the v10 firmware to make the sky+app operate correctly.  Upnp was turned on, but it seems there was some issue wit DNLA server sharing.

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Cheers Penfold
I will look into that in due course, as I do not want to make any more changes atm. (for at least a full 10 days since install)

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Perhaps capture the traffic using wireshark when something tries to access the NowTV Roxu box with network discovery on and off, and compare them, and see what's different.

[#13]

All well & good to suggest these kind of programs
However would you like to share how the program would be best setup for the task(s) you suggest on a
Ethernet connected Server ==============> Router =============> WiFi Roku <=============> Router =============> Ethernet Server

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Router?  You mean 'switch' in your diagram don't you?  Or at the very least the switch part of a router?
To use Wireshark, run it on one of the servers and capture the traffic...
It may help to go into a lot more detail about how you've got your network plugged up.

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Network is simple no external switch(es)

Vista Laptop (acting as temporary server) Connects to router via Ethernet =================> NowTV Roku box is WiFi only to and from Router <===========> Router back to Vista (Temp Server Laptop) Ethernet
Will the portable wireshark do or do I have to D/Load the full ?