When will Plusnet tell people that they are behind a [proxy]?

[#1]

Thank you all for your opinions and investigations.
As some of you can already testify, my profile is not of an undesirable nature, it may be boring, but certainly not containing content that should be blocked.
PJ, here is the tracert:
C:\Documents and Settings\Me>tracert profiles.yahoo.com
Tracing route to profiles.yahoo8.akadns.net [206.190.57.26]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.1.1
  2    29 ms    28 ms    28 ms  lo0-plusnet.pcl-ag01.plus.net [195.166.128.27]
  3    30 ms    29 ms    28 ms  gi1-2-803.pcl-gw1.plus.net [84.92.5.57]
  4    28 ms    28 ms    29 ms  tun0.pcl-gw01.plus.net [212.159.2.105]
  5    28 ms    29 ms    29 ms  10ge-7-1-0.lon22.ip.tiscali.net [213.200.79.233]
  6  105 ms  103 ms  103 ms  so-1-0-0.was10.ip.tiscali.net [213.200.80.114]
  7  105 ms  104 ms  104 ms  213.200.66.126
  8  104 ms  104 ms  104 ms  ge-2-1-0-p150.msr2.re1.yahoo.com [216.115.108.21
]
  9  105 ms  105 ms  106 ms  ge-9-3.bas-a2.re4.yahoo.com [216.39.49.7]
10  118 ms  105 ms  105 ms  profiles2.vip.re4.yahoo.com [206.190.57.26]
and:
C:\Documents and Settings\Me>tracert http://members.yahoo.com
Unable to resolve target system name http://members.yahoo.com.
C:\Documents and Settings\Me>tracert http://members.yahoo.com/interests?.oc=a
chillypenquin, I can get to http://members.yahoo.com/ ok.
I can get to the Advanced search ok.
http://members.yahoo.com/interests?.oc=a
I get a result when I perform a search on my own ID.
When I click on the result-my ID, which should take me to my profile, I get:
"The connection was reset
The connection to the server was reset while the page was loading."
Or I get this:
""ERROR
The requested URL could not be retrieved
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
While trying to retrieve the URL: http://profiles.yahoo.com/rivertowysewin?
The following error was encountered:
Read Error
The system returned:
    (104) Connection reset by peer
An error condition occurred while reading data from the network. Please retry your request.
Your cache administrator is noc@plus.net. "
I have raised a ticket PJ, so far the most help and explanation has come from this forum.  The ticket has now been sent to the "networks Team for confirmation".
chillypenquin, I would agree with you in that it is not working as intended.
I do not seem to have any problems with any other sites except for the plusnet portal where I have to clcik on Login a few times as this comes up:
Customer Login
Invalid username or password. Please try again.
But that is of no real consequence, at least i get in after a few clicks.
Someone mentioned gateway.  Mine is  currently:
You are currently connected to the "City Lifeline, Juniper 8" gateway. This gateway is sometimes known as pcl-ag01.
If I rebooted my router a few times to get to another, would this help?
Thank you all once again.

[#2]

I am currently on "Telehouse North, Juniper 1" gateway. This gateway is sometimes known as ptn-ag1. I can view the profile fine on this gateway.
If you can swap gateways it would help narrow down whether it is a gateway related issue or something more connected to your setup.

[#3]

Changed from "City Lifeline, Juniper 8" gateway. This gateway is sometimes known as pcl-ag01 to
"Telehouse North, Juniper 6" gateway. This gateway is sometimes known as thn-ag1.
Same problem though.
I will try again, but will rebooting my router now cause other issues re broadband profile?

[#4]

You shouldn't need to do a full reboot of the router - you should be able to tell it to disconnect then reconnect.

[#5]

No improvement/success with "Telehouse North, Juniper 2" gateway. This gateway is sometimes known as ptn-ag2.

[#6]

I've raised a problem internally for this one. 
Is it just Firefox that has the problem?  Can you clear your cache and cookies with Firefox and also flush your DNS entries  (ipconfig /flushdns in a cmd prompt if you are using Windows)

[#7]

Kelly, you are an absolute genius.
It was only Firefox I had a problem with.
Followed your instructions exactly and did a reboot of PC for good measure.
Everything now back to normal.  Fantastic, well done you.  I cannot thank you enough.
Have a very good New Year.

[#8]

Cool.  Looks like Firefox had cached the lookup for that page.
Is anyone else seeing problems like this?

[#9]

Quote from: thehatman

....  The entire post not quoted here, but you should re-read it ..... Gradually yet another bit of bad law becomes normality. That is why I am concerned.

And today I see...
http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/30/australia-joins-china-in-censoring-the-internet/ ; (original news item: http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/12/31/2129471.htm)
The post even calls the blocking system "clean feed".
Scoble also comments: http://scobleizer.com/2007/12/31/australia-keeping-the-internet-clean-for-kids/

[#10]

Before this got sidetracked by the Yahoo stuff, I said:
"Things start with "you'd have to be insane or a pervert not to support that", which causes people to feel they can't speak out. Then the same measures are moved by stealth a little off the good cause, then a little further off.
Gradually yet another bit of bad law becomes normality."
Now look at what Australia is doing (the above link).

[#11]

Quote from: thehatman

Before this got sidetracked by the Yahoo stuff,

This thread started about the "Yahoo stuff";

Quote from: alisterb

(updated header. Was: "When will Plusnet tell people that they are behind a big-brother cache?") It's only because it screwed up and stopped my accessing of pages at http://profiles.yahoo.com that I found out it even existed. I was then told that no one should be sitting behind any caches between them and the outside internet, today though - a different story. Quote Web traffic is now subjected to a caching server. This is related to our work in joining the Internet Watch Foundation. This cache is not removable. http://www.plus.net/support/security/abuse/internet_watch_foundation.shtml When was this major change to how the web is accessed through Plusnet put in place, and when did you intend to inform people of it?  While I'm at it, how many other people (quite possibly less technologically savvy than I) have complained that they can't access various websites now, that they had no trouble a few days before?

[#12]

Yup.
I'd actually just been reading about the Australian governments plans.
Seems "interesting".

[#13]

That is quite interesting actually, how long before the UK follow suit, either by choice or by political pressure?
We are already subjected to monitoing of emails, tried it out once, and sure enough one of my two emails was delayed by around 30 mins...
Although, of the whole thing, this has to be the most worrying part...

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The problem of course then becomes if you opt-out questions will be asked as to why you want out, which in itself may lead to Government monitoring.

Right, so its really catch 22...

[#14]

On the PN IWF page:
"Visit IWF and report potentially illegal content"
Potentially illegal?  What next, spy on your neighbours because they have "potential" to commit a crime?
This IWF thing is wrong, not because preventing child abuse is not a good thing (of course it is), but because our police and government cannot be trusted not extend this internet blocking and spying further.

[#15]

good point, everybody has the potential to get caught up in this, innocent or not, everybody is going to be tarred by the same brush, as it were.
For example, anybody that drives could potentially run someone over, killing them, and having commited murder/manslaughter. The fix? Take away all cars/buses/trucks etc...
Thats my view on how the IWF is operating. Not that they are doing wrong by what they are implementing.
Mind you, with all the data lost by our government, is it any wonder people dont have much trust in them!