Use of pre-existing extension for fibre install?
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Use of pre-existing extension for fibre install?
11-01-2013 5:09 PM
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Quote I strongly advise that when you arrange your install ask for an extension to your master socket to place it near to whichever computer you'll be using the most. It will be done FOC.
Presumably this is referring the the installation of a 'Data Extension Kit' that I've seen mention of?
Well, I was wondering if it is possible for them to use pre-existing wiring, assuming of course it is deemed of sufficient quality? The reason I ask is that my master socket is in the hall - I'm waiting for the day someone actually slices it off the wall when coming through the door with a heavy bag - and so I fitted an XTE-2005 faceplate with the (filtered) extension wiring heading off to the telephone extension points and a piece of (unfiltered) CAT5e running to a dedicated socket in the understairs cupboard where the modem and other networking kit lives.
This piece of CAT5e is hidden away in the fabric of the building and so I was wondering if it could be used in place of the wiring of the Data Extension Kit as I'd obviously prefer this to what I am assuming would a surface-run piece of cable normally provided.
Fully concious that as BT are holding responsibility for everything upto/into the modem they might not want to do this but I wondered that if they could satisfy themselves of the quality/integrity of the wiring that they'd be willing to use it?
Re: Use of pre-existing extension for fibre install?
11-01-2013 5:12 PM
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11-01-2013 5:22 PM
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To be fair, my wiring could have intermediate connections along it and be wrapped around my central heating pump for all they know hence I could understand a blanket policy of 'if an extension is required it has to be fitted by us' given that they will in effect be taking on responsibility for its performance once the service starts.
I suppose there's always the option of:
Me: 'Any chance you could utilise my existing Cat5 wiring for the extension?'
BT: 'Sorry son, not allowed'
Me: 'Not even for a Hob Nob?'
BT: 'No. Anyway, I hate Hob Nobs'
Me: 'Okay, just install the modem in the hall'
BT: 'What, right in front of the door?'
Me: 'Yeah. I'd rather than that skirting-mounted wiring'
BT: 'Fair enough guv'
<engineer installs and leaves>
Me: <rewires master socket to incorporate my Cat5 extension and plugs modem into extension socket under stairs>
...but I'd rather play by the rules if at all possible for everyone's benefit!
Re: Use of pre-existing extension for fibre install?
11-01-2013 5:30 PM
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You could always let him install it at the master, (he only has to check the connection back to the cabinet is OK, it isn't a manage install like the BT Home Hub is), just making sure he doesn't wall-mount it! Then move it once he has gone.
Re: Use of pre-existing extension for fibre install?
11-01-2013 5:30 PM
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The Openreach guys who installed my fibre setup happily used my existing wiring (I'd used CW1308 though) which like the OP's is routed out of sight through the house. They told me they'd have to run their own cable afterwards if the installation testing showed a problem. I'd expect them to do the same with the CAT5 if asked nicely as the worst that could happen is that they'd have to run their own.
It's Openreach that's a plank. I've always found that the guys on the job are just fine.
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11-01-2013 5:31 PM
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11-01-2013 6:20 PM
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11-01-2013 7:20 PM
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11-01-2013 7:25 PM
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If he refuses and does fit an NTE5A, make sure he leaves you your own faceplate. The ones that do fit an NTE5A tend to waltz off with the existing faceplate.
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11-01-2013 7:32 PM
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11-01-2013 7:40 PM
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Quote from: Estragon I'm pretty sure CW1308 shouldn't be used for resiting the FTTC modem.
Nope - it's CW1308. Same specification as carries the signal from the cabinet to the Master socket.
As I said earlier CAT5e is technically wrong as it introduces an impedance change, but given that none of BT's connections are matched anyway it doesn't matter overly.
(And the guys that did my install didn't steal my filtered faceplate either so I sold it on Ebay ;))
Re: Use of pre-existing extension for fibre install?
13-01-2013 9:21 AM
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Yes. Probably not if you don't request him to at the start.
Quote from: MJN Just run that by me again? He may just plug the fibre modem straight into my current faceplate
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13-01-2013 10:32 AM
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