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Turning my router off
17-11-2012 1:10 PM
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I previously had a sterling service from BE and turned my router off every night and never lost any speed at all (24Mb every day, without fail). So what is different about Plusnet that they expect customers to leave their router on (and pay for its wasteful running costs as a result)?
Re: Turning my router off
17-11-2012 1:40 PM
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Re: Turning my router off
17-11-2012 2:21 PM
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Re: Turning my router off
17-11-2012 2:31 PM
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Quote from: quelquod Turning your router off overnight isn't likely to be an issue of any sort. What Plusnet are really getting at is that if you turn your router off and on frequently or at short intervals the equipment in the telephone exchange may interpret this as a problem with the telephone line and reduce your connection speed in an attempt to improve things. The exchange equipment can only tell that the router has stopped talking to it, it can't distinguish properly between a line fault and the router being off or disconnected.
This is how I think, but the text from Plusnet doesn't put it across that way. They clearly state it shouldn't be turned off at night for the reasons you mention in regard to frequent cycling. I don't buy it and wonder why they say it.
Quote from: Oldjim Also Be don't use the BT DLM and so don't change your default noise margin if they think it might be unstable
I can't remember if they did it automatically or not at the time, it's been a while since I was with them. That said, I do seem to recall the same advice about leaving your router switched on, so can only presume it was for the same reasons.
Re: Turning my router off
17-11-2012 2:36 PM
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Re: Turning my router off
17-11-2012 4:38 PM
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My understanding is that, say, you turn off at night but don't turn it back on till you get home from work between 5 & 6pm. With lights coming on and others doing similar then you may likely resync at a lower rate than if you power on late morning or early afternoon.
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Re: Turning my router off
17-11-2012 4:43 PM
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Re: Turning my router off
18-11-2012 9:59 AM
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Quote from: Mav My understanding is that, say, you turn off at night but don't turn it back on till you get home from work between 5 & 6pm. With lights coming on and others doing similar then you may likely resync at a lower rate than if you power on late morning or early afternoon.
I can understand that. In my past experience, with even frequent cycling, I never had issues of lower resyncs.
Quote from: davidj60 Most routers/psus are more likely to fail sooner if switched on and off regularly;its a balance between electrical cost and router replacement cost..
Isn't that true of most anything? In fact, most things are more likely to fail if we use them at all, so let's just not. That way they'll last for years.
Re: Turning my router off
18-11-2012 11:00 AM
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Quote from: Razer I previously had a sterling service from BE and turned my router off every night and never lost any speed at all (24Mb every day, without fail). So what is different about Plusnet..?
Easy question; BE install their own equipment in the telephone exchange whilst Plusnet use the BT equipment. It's the BT equipment that may take against unexpected disconnections.
If you want to switch off your router, log on to the router, disconnect the PPP session then switch it off. That should not cause any problems.
Re: Turning my router off
18-11-2012 11:38 AM
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Re: Turning my router off
21-11-2012 1:27 PM
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If you are close to the exchange for example and get 20-24Mbps it probably won't make the slightest difference (unless your line is faulty),
Re: Turning my router off
21-11-2012 1:57 PM
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Uptime: 1 day, 15:30:02
SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]: 32,3 / 6,4
Day 3 on phone extension
Uptime: 0 days, 2:00:48
SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]: 32,6 / 6,0
Then did some testing which naturally involved resyncs.
In Master socket
SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]: 32,2 / 6,0
Test socket
SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]: 32,1 / 6,1
back to extension
SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]: 32,3 / 5,7
Today, having used disconnet last night via interface:
SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]: 32,0 / 5,5
I'm not noticing SN changes between day and dusk as it's on all day and doesn't resync (I've only once had a resynch, think that was on my second day - been connected since 13th Nov). Very close to exchange, download speed generally floating around 19Mb.
Re: Turning my router off
21-11-2012 2:09 PM
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Re: Turning my router off
21-11-2012 2:13 PM
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ON EXTENSION
Uptime: 1 day, 15:30:02
DSL Type: ITU-T G.992.5
Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 443 / 21.847
Data Transferred (Sent/Received) [MB/MB]: 10,53 / 270,31
Output Power (Up/Down) [dBm]: 12,7 / 0,0
Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]: 8,6 / 16,5
SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]: 32,3 / 6,4
System Vendor ID (Local/Remote): TMMB / ----
Chipset Vendor ID (Local/Remote): BDCM / IFTN
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Power (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Link (Remote): -
Error Seconds (Local/Remote): 582 / 0
FEC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 0
CRC Errors (Up/Down): 3 / 1.107
HEC Errors (Up/Down): 1 / 20.423
------------------------------------
ON EXTENSION
Uptime: 0 days, 2:00:48
DSL Type: ITU-T G.992.5
Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 443 / 22.214
Data Transferred (Sent/Received) [kB/MB]: 417,47 / 4,29
Output Power (Up/Down) [dBm]: 12,8 / 0,0
Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]: 8,6 / 16,5
SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]: 32,6 / 6,0
System Vendor ID (Local/Remote): TMMB / ----
Chipset Vendor ID (Local/Remote): BDCM / IFTN
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Power (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Link (Remote): -
Error Seconds (Local/Remote): 40 / 0
FEC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 0
CRC Errors (Up/Down): 2 / 44
HEC Errors (Up/Down): 2 / 436
------------------------------------
ON FILTER IN MASTER SOCKET
Uptime: 0 days, 0:06:16
DSL Type: ITU-T G.992.5
Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 443 / 22.222
Data Transferred (Sent/Received) [MB/MB]: 3,38 / 40,93
Output Power (Up/Down) [dBm]: 12,8 / 0,0
Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]: 8,5 / 16,0
SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]: 32,2 / 6,0
System Vendor ID (Local/Remote): TMMB / ----
Chipset Vendor ID (Local/Remote): BDCM / IFTN
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Power (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Link (Remote): -
Error Seconds (Local/Remote): 1 / 0
FEC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 0
CRC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 1
HEC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 0
------------------------------------
ON FILTER IN TEST SOCKET
Uptime: 0 days, 0:16:25
DSL Type: ITU-T G.992.5
Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 443 / 22.254
Data Transferred (Sent/Received) [MB/MB]: 2,20 / 23,29
Output Power (Up/Down) [dBm]: 12,9 / 0,0
Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]: 8,5 / 15,5
SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]: 32,1 / 6,1
System Vendor ID (Local/Remote): TMMB / ----
Chipset Vendor ID (Local/Remote): BDCM / IFTN
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Power (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Link (Remote): -
Error Seconds (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
FEC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 0
CRC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 0
HEC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 0
------------------------------------
ON EXTENSION Sunday 18 Nov 19.22
Uptime: 0 days, 10:50:52
DSL Type: ITU-T G.992.5
Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 443 / 22.051
Data Transferred (Sent/Received) [MB/MB]: 259,45 / 46,66
Output Power (Up/Down) [dBm]: 12,8 / 0,0
Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]: 8,6 / 16,5
SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]: 32,3 / 5,7
System Vendor ID (Local/Remote): TMMB / ----
Chipset Vendor ID (Local/Remote): BDCM / IFTN
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Power (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Link (Remote): -
Error Seconds (Local/Remote): 166 / 0
FEC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 0
CRC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 243
HEC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 3.754
And todays:
Uptime: 0 days, 4:23:15
DSL Type: ITU-T G.992.5
Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 443 / 22.254
Data Transferred (Sent/Received) [MB/GB]: 28,58 / 1,67
Output Power (Up/Down) [dBm]: 12,6 / 0,0
Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]: 8,6 / 16,5
SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]: 32,0 / 5,5
System Vendor ID (Local/Remote): TMMB / ----
Chipset Vendor ID (Local/Remote): BDCM / IFTN
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Power (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Link (Remote): -
Error Seconds (Local/Remote): 59 / 0
FEC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 0
CRC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 63
HEC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 595
Re: Turning my router off
21-11-2012 2:30 PM
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