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Re: Spam filtering
05-08-2008 4:09 PM
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Re: Spam filtering
05-08-2008 4:27 PM
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Quote from: SteveA X-Plusnet-Relay: e9a06ec8bd7371fc0048c9fba6e295f1
X-pstn-neptune: 35/35/1.00/87
X-pstn-levels: (S: 1.13784/99.90000 CV:99.0000 )
X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) cv gt3 gt2 gt1
X-pstn-addresses: from <steve@my.domain.here> [db-null]
X-pstn-neptune-cave-rslt: qtine
X-pn-pstn: Spam 1
X-PN-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet MXCore (v4.00)
Subject: [-SPAM-] templating system
Quote from: Anotherone In this particular case as the score is not high but seems to be above the threshold of your settings, it's going to be interesting to see what PN have to say.
The message contains the X-pstn-neptune-cave-rslt: qtine header which causes 20 to be subtracted from the spam score S before comparison with the threshold, so rating it Spam 1 is correct. However the presence of an X-Plusnet-Relay: header (assuming the value is valid) should override spam tagging. Tagging appears to me not to be working as designed. I'll flag this up to PN.
Re: Spam filtering
05-08-2008 4:43 PM
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Re: Spam filtering
05-08-2008 5:04 PM
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Can you advise what product he is on. If it is one of the heritage products it may not be available
Quote from: SteveA But my brother is finding that either he can't white list or the system refuses to recognise the whitelisting.
Re: Spam filtering
05-08-2008 5:16 PM
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Quote from: Oldjim Can you advise what product he is on. If it is one of the heritage products it may not be available
Quote from: SteveA But my brother is finding that either he can't white list or the system refuses to recognise the whitelisting.
Hes on one of the normal BBYW products as far as I know
Re: Spam filtering
05-08-2008 5:26 PM
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Re: Spam filtering
06-08-2008 3:45 PM
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Quote from: spraxyt
Quote from: SteveA X-Plusnet-Relay: e9a06ec8bd7371fc0048c9fba6e295f1
X-pstn-neptune: 35/35/1.00/87
X-pstn-levels: (S: 1.13784/99.90000 CV:99.0000 )
X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) cv gt3 gt2 gt1
X-pstn-addresses: from <steve@my.domain.here> [db-null]
X-pstn-neptune-cave-rslt: qtine
X-pn-pstn: Spam 1
X-PN-Spam-Filtered: by Plusnet MXCore (v4.00)
Subject: [-SPAM-] templating system
Quote from: Anotherone In this particular case as the score is not high but seems to be above the threshold of your settings, it's going to be interesting to see what PN have to say.
The message contains the X-pstn-neptune-cave-rslt: qtine header which causes 20 to be subtracted from the spam score S before comparison with the threshold, so rating it Spam 1 is correct. However the presence of an X-Plusnet-Relay: header (assuming the value is valid) should override spam tagging. Tagging appears to me not to be working as designed. I'll flag this up to PN.
Thanks for the info spraxyt, however, the question also still seems to remain as to WHY is that X-pstn-neptune-cave-rslt: qtine header there in this mail in the first place?
Regards.
Re: Spam filtering
06-08-2008 4:45 PM
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Quote from: Anotherone Thanks for the info spraxyt, however, the question also still seems to remain as to WHY is that X-pstn-neptune-cave-rslt: qtine header there in this mail in the first place?
Regards.
That is a good question. I guess the problem is that if we knew how Neptune worked so would every self-respecting spammer, making it ineffective.
Re: Spam filtering
06-08-2008 4:55 PM
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My rhetorical question is I suppose based on the unstated question.
Re: Spam filtering
09-08-2008 7:47 PM
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Quote from: SteveA OK can anyone explain why the plusnet system has decided that the following email is spam? I've included the bottom part of the headers which include the DSPAM tags from my own email server which uses plusnet as a relay host.
It has the relay hash and has been sent via our smtp servers, but I'm guessing the munged address is one of your hosted domains? I'm going to need to follow this up next week as my memory's a little hazy, but I don't think the PN > PN automatic whitelisting works with hosted domains. It certainly looks that way from this due to the absence of the [org-good] and the presence [db-null] in the headers.
Quote Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 19:41:54 +0100
Message-ID: <k8je941din7sgsbqn01c4q1sa1s64upvlp@4ax.com>
X-Mailer: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted
X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 4 19:41:54 2008
X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9979
X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000
X-DSPAM-Signature: 48974d7239577923088037
X-Plusnet-Relay: e9a06ec8bd7371fc0048c9fba6e295f1
X-pstn-neptune: 35/35/1.00/87
X-pstn-levels: (S: 1.13784/99.90000 CV:99.0000 )
X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) cv gt3 gt2 gt1
X-pstn-addresses: from <steve@my.domain.here> [db-null]
X-pstn-neptune-cave-rslt: qtine
X-pn-pstn: Spam 1
X-PN-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet MXCore (v4.00)
Subject: [-SPAM-] templating system
Can you remind me what the templating system is called again?
Thought I'd remind you of the URL for the canalplan system on this box
which is canalplan.tty.org.uk
and the blog is at
http://canalplan.blogdns.com/canalplanac/
Quote from: spraxyt The message contains the X-pstn-neptune-cave-rslt: qtine header which causes 20 to be subtracted from the spam score S before comparison with the threshold, so rating it Spam 1 is correct.
I thought it deducted 7? Perhaps that's something else I need to brush up on?
Bob Pullen
Plusnet Product Team
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Re: Spam filtering
12-08-2008 6:47 PM
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I'm happy to give you the complete unmunged headers with all the other bits in the middle if that will help.
It seems that the spam filters are going crazy as its flagged the following message as spam:
Quote
The downtrodden masses are bring liberated by glorious Soviet Red Arrny under the great leadership of General Secretary Putin.
Ah, the good old days, 1956, 1968......
And only our politicians are surprised.....
Now unless its purely because PlusNet have decided that the senders ISP (Tiscali) is a spammer can anyone explain why that email is spam?
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