Profile Check Please
Well I've just had a little adventure, and I'm back online 
To clarify, I am downloading database backups from a dedicated server to a NAS at home overnight, using rsync+ssh. I did check the router logs this morning but stupidly did not copy/paste them, however in summary, there was a timeout at the PPP level between my endpoint and I assume the Plusnet gateway. My router was issuing pings but claiming to receive no response. If my downstream was saturated I could see how that would happen, but it would require no echo reply for a minute or so, which is suspicious by my books. It was definitely dropping the PPP session (from my side! due to timeout)
I wasn't so much worried about DLM "interfering with the PPP", rather the PPP disconnects routinely being spied by the DLM and it making a wrong assumption. I'll see what happens tonight, and make sure to copy the logs.
I think I didn't explain myself properly regarding this bit.
Before: Sync=12955, Plusnet site said speed = 12.x mbps, speed tests ~11.5mbps
After: Sync=12955, Plusnet site said speed = 11.4 mbps, speed tests ~10.5mbps
So while I didn't lose sync, my reported speed and actual speed both did decrease.
Well, about that...
I did as you said, PPP disconnect, made a cuppa, router power down, located screwdriver, unplugged and started with the as yet untouched master socket.
Big mess of cables in the back, only 1 of each wire going to the outlet which I thought strange, since the extension had 2 pairs. Plucked out the orange wire anyway.
1st extension, I didn't notice before, but it only had the orange and blue pairs wired up anyway, green pairs were coiled up out of the way. I still pulled out the orange though.
2nd extension (the one I uploaded an image of), pulled out the oranges.
Plugged in, powered on, checked sync... 16930 - wow, what a difference. Not sure where you got your Nostradamus like qualities, but pulling out those little orange buggers has done wonders on that side of things.
Unfortunately speed tests are still around 10.5mbps
- I suspect I'll need someone to take another look at the profile after this.
To clarify, I am downloading database backups from a dedicated server to a NAS at home overnight, using rsync+ssh. I did check the router logs this morning but stupidly did not copy/paste them, however in summary, there was a timeout at the PPP level between my endpoint and I assume the Plusnet gateway. My router was issuing pings but claiming to receive no response. If my downstream was saturated I could see how that would happen, but it would require no echo reply for a minute or so, which is suspicious by my books. It was definitely dropping the PPP session (from my side! due to timeout)
I wasn't so much worried about DLM "interfering with the PPP", rather the PPP disconnects routinely being spied by the DLM and it making a wrong assumption. I'll see what happens tonight, and make sure to copy the logs.
Quote from: Anotherone The Current Line speed of 11.4 matches the BT IP Profile for your 12955 sync speed, so as there's been no loss of sync that's correct. The other figure would have related to some previous higher sync speed. BT data for changes to Profiles seems to lag these days by around 3 days, fairly consistently by my observations!
I think I didn't explain myself properly regarding this bit.
Before: Sync=12955, Plusnet site said speed = 12.x mbps, speed tests ~11.5mbps
After: Sync=12955, Plusnet site said speed = 11.4 mbps, speed tests ~10.5mbps
So while I didn't lose sync, my reported speed and actual speed both did decrease.
Quote from: Anotherone If you do the bell wires later and resync after dark, you may, I say may, get a slightly lower sync speed depending on how much extra noise after dark that your line was/is picking up and how much was related to the bell wire, hopefully you will see an improvement.
Well, about that...
I did as you said, PPP disconnect, made a cuppa, router power down, located screwdriver, unplugged and started with the as yet untouched master socket.
Big mess of cables in the back, only 1 of each wire going to the outlet which I thought strange, since the extension had 2 pairs. Plucked out the orange wire anyway.
1st extension, I didn't notice before, but it only had the orange and blue pairs wired up anyway, green pairs were coiled up out of the way. I still pulled out the orange though.
2nd extension (the one I uploaded an image of), pulled out the oranges.
Plugged in, powered on, checked sync... 16930 - wow, what a difference. Not sure where you got your Nostradamus like qualities, but pulling out those little orange buggers has done wonders on that side of things.
Unfortunately speed tests are still around 10.5mbps
- I suspect I'll need someone to take another look at the profile after this.
In theory you should be able to drop your PPP session whenever you like, DLM shouldn't get upset!
Well what a good improvement in sync speed, nothing Nostradamus about it
it's a long established issue. It affects some more than others.
Sorry, I forgot to comment about the speedtest results themselves.
The first one is a porkie, you can't physically get a speed faster than the profile. All testers give erroneous results from time to time, you should never rely on one result or one tester. Do a number of off-peak tests with a variety of testers and see which gives the most consistent for you. I would include the BTw Performance Test in that - go to the second Diagnostic test to get your profile.
If you get a result from any test that isn't what you'd expect, run further tests and try your alternative testers. I things are still amiss, start looking for the problem.
The second one, well that did seem a bit low. Could have been congestion at the time. Same suggestions apply really.
As for the Current Line speed figure itself, the 12.x one must have been from a previous higher sync and the value hadn't been updated until the 11.4 update, as I mentioned, the updates do seem to lag and some not materialise.
If your current speed is still around 10.5, try some other testers, and yes your Current Line speed will need a kick up, it should go to 14.9.
You should also see considerably less CRC errors now as well, so it will be interesting to see how your database backups go.
Well what a good improvement in sync speed, nothing Nostradamus about it
it's a long established issue. It affects some more than others.Sorry, I forgot to comment about the speedtest results themselves.
The first one is a porkie, you can't physically get a speed faster than the profile. All testers give erroneous results from time to time, you should never rely on one result or one tester. Do a number of off-peak tests with a variety of testers and see which gives the most consistent for you. I would include the BTw Performance Test in that - go to the second Diagnostic test to get your profile.
If you get a result from any test that isn't what you'd expect, run further tests and try your alternative testers. I things are still amiss, start looking for the problem.
The second one, well that did seem a bit low. Could have been congestion at the time. Same suggestions apply really.
As for the Current Line speed figure itself, the 12.x one must have been from a previous higher sync and the value hadn't been updated until the 11.4 update, as I mentioned, the updates do seem to lag and some not materialise.
If your current speed is still around 10.5, try some other testers, and yes your Current Line speed will need a kick up, it should go to 14.9.
You should also see considerably less CRC errors now as well, so it will be interesting to see how your database backups go.
The profile won't increase on it's own whilst the line is dropping out I'm afraid. Here's a view of the disconnections over the last 24 hours. if you can't account for these I'd raise a fault:
<img src="http://ccgi.psmith12.plus.com/visradius/generated/image13651507199854.png"/>
<img src="http://ccgi.psmith12.plus.com/visradius/generated/image13651507199854.png"/>
Quote from: leight PPP dropped right in the middle of an internet spaceship battle! However I did not die, so all is well