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Plusnet site take "forever" to load pages & email problem too!

MrC
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Re: Plusnet site take "forever" to load pages & email problem too!

@jameseh: not sure if it's of any use but I can identify exactly when this started from some network monitoring I started to try and tie down the loss of routing we were seeing a week or so ago:-

*** mtr starting at Mon Aug 17 19:03:40 BST 2009 ***
HOST: lucy                        Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
  1. 80.229.212.249                0.0%    20   27.5  37.8  22.6  95.3  18.4
  2. 195.166.128.109               0.0%    20   39.2  66.0  38.2 310.3  67.0
  3. 84.92.0.181                   5.0%    20  179.1  72.0  38.1 235.4  64.9
  4. 84.93.224.48                  0.0%    20   46.4  49.8  46.4  63.0   4.8
  5. 84.93.224.51                 10.0%    20   46.6  47.1  46.3  49.3   0.7
  6. 212.159.0.18                 10.0%    20   45.6  52.4  45.6 143.7  22.8
  7. 212.159.8.2                   0.0%    20   45.9  51.2  45.5 116.8  15.8
*** mtr done at Mon Aug 17 19:04:19 BST 2009 ***
*** mtr starting at Mon Aug 17 19:04:19 BST 2009 ***
HOST: lucy                        Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
  1. 80.229.212.249                0.0%    20   31.5  46.1   3.1  65.9  14.2
  2. 195.166.128.109               0.0%    20   46.6  41.2  37.9  70.7   7.2
  3. 84.92.0.181                   0.0%    20   45.8  46.7  37.5 150.4  25.3
  4. 84.93.224.48                  0.0%    20   58.0  47.9  45.9  58.0   2.5
  5. ???                          100.0    20    0.0   0.0   0.0   0.0   0.0
  6. ???                          100.0    20    0.0   0.0   0.0   0.0   0.0
  7. 212.159.8.2                   0.0%    20   45.6  46.3  45.3  48.6   0.8
*** mtr done at Mon Aug 17 19:04:59 BST 2009 ***

As far as I can tell it's been consistently broken since then.
Tigger
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Re: Plusnet site take "forever" to load pages & email problem too!

Community pages very slow to load here - and absolutely impossible to get to the usertools pages.  Undecided
I have a note on my Plusnet RSS feed that "Live bookmark is failing to load" - and so can't get at that.   Sad
So far, I have the following tracerts:
Tracing route to portal.plus.net [212.159.8.2]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
  1     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  192.168.0.1
  2    67 ms    27 ms    26 ms  lo0-plusnet.pcl-ag01.plus.net [195.166.128.27]
  3    30 ms    28 ms    37 ms  gi1-2-803.pcl-gw1.plus.net [84.92.5.57]
  4     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  5     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  6    38 ms    34 ms    35 ms  if25.pih-lb04.plus.net [212.159.0.18]
  7    34 ms    34 ms    33 ms  portal.plus.net [212.159.8.2]

Tracing route to community.plus.net [212.159.9.110]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
  1     1 ms     1 ms     2 ms  192.168.0.1
  2    31 ms    28 ms    27 ms  lo0-plusnet.pcl-ag01.plus.net [195.166.128.27]
  3   240 ms   219 ms   228 ms  gi1-2-803.pcl-gw1.plus.net [84.92.5.57]
  4    29 ms    29 ms    28 ms  te2-2.pte-gw1.plus.net [212.159.0.186]
  5    50 ms    85 ms    28 ms  te2-4.pte-gw2.plus.net [212.159.1.102]
  6    33 ms    34 ms    33 ms  92.core.plus.net [212.159.1.92]
  7    62 ms    58 ms    39 ms  fhw-lb04.plus.net [212.159.1.146]
  8    44 ms    40 ms    47 ms  community.plus.net [212.159.9.110]

Tracing route to usertools.plus.net [212.159.3.14]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
  1     1 ms     2 ms     1 ms  192.168.0.1
  2    27 ms    27 ms    34 ms  lo0-plusnet.pcl-ag01.plus.net [195.166.128.27]
  3    27 ms    26 ms    27 ms  gi1-2-803.pcl-gw1.plus.net [84.92.5.57]
  4     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  5     *        *        *     Request timed out.
etc, etc etc for the 30 steps

shutter
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Re: Plusnet site take "forever" to load pages & email problem too!

OK.... Don`t know whether "location" is something to do with the problem.... I am Near Portsmouth.... and about 2 miles from the exchange there. 
Plusnet pages seem to be loading at the same speed as others now. but still no difference on the email side of things....
Don`t want to do a reboot at present time, which may be of use to your end to "monitor" what stuff you have been getting up to is doing anything !
Will look in from time to time....
barky
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Re: Plusnet site take "forever" to load pages & email problem too!

been a bit sluggish for me earlier today -- also on a 'city lifeline' connection
maybe BT had some hardware on low power - says I who has nae clue  Cheesy
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Re: Plusnet site take "forever" to load pages & email problem too!

22:00 hrs........................ no change on the email front !...
won`t be on until late tomorrow afternoon, so hope it will be better by then.
MrC
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Re: Plusnet site take "forever" to load pages & email problem too!

Me neither. One thing you can do to improve your email access is to change your pop3 server from pop3.plus.net (which resolves to two round-robin IP addresses) to the IP address of the pop3 server that is reachable, ie 212.159.9.81.
Another peculiarity is that from here the pop3 server on  212.159.8.81 is unreachable, like all the other services on 212.159.8.n addresses, but the imap4 server on 212.159.8.86 is reachable :-

lucy samba # host imap.plus.net                                       
imap.plus.net has address 212.159.9.86                                 
imap.plus.net has address 212.159.8.86
lucy samba # telnet 212.159.9.86 imap
Trying 212.159.9.86...
Connected to 212.159.9.86.
Escape character is '^]'.
* OK [CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 UIDPLUS CHILDREN NAMESPACE THREAD=ORDEREDSUBJECT THREAD=REFERENCES SORT QUOTA IDLE ACL ACL2=UNION] Courier-IMAP ready. Copyright 1998-2008 Double Precision, Inc.  See COPYING for distribution information.
^]
telnet> close
Connection closed.
lucy samba # telnet 212.159.8.86 imap
Trying 212.159.8.86...
Connected to 212.159.8.86.
Escape character is '^]'.
* OK [CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 UIDPLUS CHILDREN NAMESPACE THREAD=ORDEREDSUBJECT THREAD=REFERENCES SORT QUOTA IDLE ACL ACL2=UNION] Courier-IMAP ready. Copyright 1998-2008 Double Precision, Inc.  See COPYING for distribution information.
^]
telnet> close
Connection closed.
lucy samba # host pop3.plus.net.
pop3.plus.net has address 212.159.9.81
pop3.plus.net has address 212.159.8.81
lucy samba # telnet 212.159.9.81 pop3
Trying 212.159.9.81...
Connected to 212.159.9.81.
Escape character is '^]'.
+OK Hello there.
^]
telnet> close
Connection closed.
lucy samba # telnet 212.159.8.81 pop3
Trying 212.159.8.81...
^C
James
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Re: Plusnet site take "forever" to load pages & email problem too!

Yep - That ties in pretty much with what was being reported with the email issues.
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Re: Plusnet site take "forever" to load pages & email problem too!

When can we expect an update on this?

Please see http://community.plus.net/forum/index.php/topic,78771.0.html - this same client has no problem accessinf the portal or webmail!  Huh
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Re: Plusnet site take "forever" to load pages & email problem too!

I'd strongly recommend that they try rebooting their router (and getting off the City Lifeline gateways).
We'll update it when there is further information available.
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Re: Plusnet site take "forever" to load pages & email problem too!

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When can we expect an update on this?

Updates are being posted to the problem here. We've actually just made some changes so I'd appreciate people shouting up if they're still having problems?

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Re: Plusnet site take "forever" to load pages & email problem too!

Thanks for the replies to my original message.
All well here today, via pte-ag1
Tracing route to mail.plus.net [212.159.9.81]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
  1    79 ms    99 ms    99 ms  speedtouch.lan [192.168.1.254]
  2    32 ms    35 ms    33 ms  lo0-plusnet.pte-ag1.plus.net [195.166.128.64]
  3    34 ms    32 ms    31 ms  ge0-0-0-403.pte-gw2.plus.net [84.92.4.2]
  4    37 ms    38 ms    37 ms  92.core.plus.net [212.159.1.92]
  5    38 ms    40 ms    37 ms  fhw-lb04.plus.net [212.159.1.146]
  6    38 ms    38 ms    36 ms  mail.plus.net [212.159.9.81]
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Re: Plusnet site take "forever" to load pages & email problem too!

All appears OK for our client now - thanks
shutter
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Re: Plusnet site take "forever" to load pages & email problem too!

15:45 ..... just returned from a trip "up north" to the Hilton Park service area on the m6 .... 6 hour round trip.....
before I left, I unplugged the router from the mains, and have just re-connected it. Plusnet pages load as normal, and Email is back to normal too!...
can`t say if this is to do with re-booting, or what you guys up in Sheffield have been playing around with !...
for me.......... case closed !  Wink Smiley
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Re: Plusnet site take "forever" to load pages & email problem too!

Appears back to normal here as of 14:26.