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PN's iwf filter and rusfolder? (was: no access to rghost.ru - IWF or Putin ?)

xist
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PN's iwf filter and rusfolder? (was: no access to rghost.ru - IWF or Putin ?)

I'm not sure if bumping here is appropriate but are there issues with PN's iwf filter and rusfolder? -  it's not listed on the IWF Checker (http://iwfchecker.lightning-bolt.net/index.php) but it seems to be being blocked. I raised a ticket but I seem to have been misunderstood a bit and given the remit of the IWF I feel wrong even querying it.
Sometimes the squid proxy blocks it, and other times when it doesn't, because the filter intercepts the request there are two differing IP addresses accessing the site there is an IP issue (similar to this - http://forums.thinkbroadband.com/plusnet/3895150-internet-watch-foundationiwf-problems-with-filesoni...
It's just a hosting site so I thought that specific pages were blocked which dealt with offending content - even the main page is blocked (http://rusfolder.com/) from PN, whilst at work i can access it (although there still seem to be IP issues....) Something seems awry here although of course I could be misunderstanding something....

adie:green changed topic to something more appropriate.]
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Re: no access to rghost.ru - IWF or Putin ?

Quote from: xist
It's just a hosting site so I thought that specific pages were blocked which dealt with offending content - even the main page is blocked (http://rusfolder.com/) from PN, whilst at work i can access it (although there still seem to be IP issues....) Something seems awry here although of course I could be misunderstanding something....

I'm not experiencing any problems accessing the main page, however you can see from a traceroute that the traffic is indeed passing via our IWF filters:
C:\Windows\System32>tracert rusfolder.com
Tracing route to rusfolder.com [78.108.186.86]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
  1    3 ms    2 ms    6 ms  home.gateway [192.168.1.254]
  2    15 ms    14 ms    16 ms  lo0.10.central10.ptw-bng01.plus.net [195.166.128.170]
  3    17 ms    15 ms    15 ms  irb.10.PTW-CR02.plus.net [84.93.249.2]
  4    33 ms    15 ms    15 ms  ae2.ptw-cr01.plus.net [195.166.129.4]
  5    18 ms    17 ms    15 ms  te9-4.ptn-gw01.plus.net [195.166.129.33]
  6    16 ms    15 ms    14 ms  tun0.ptn-gw01.plus.net [212.159.2.101] <--- ***This is the IWF proxy***
  7    16 ms    15 ms    17 ms  te2-1.gr9.plus.net [212.159.2.110]
  8    16 ms    16 ms    15 ms  195.99.126.138
  9    17 ms    17 ms    16 ms  core3-te0-10-0-11.faraday.ukcore.bt.net [62.6.201.174]
10    18 ms    19 ms    19 ms  core1-Te0-0-0-13.ealing.ukcore.bt.net [213.121.193.32]
11    16 ms    16 ms    15 ms  host213-121-193-230.ukcore.bt.net [213.121.193.230]
12    17 ms    17 ms    16 ms  213.137.183.96
13    17 ms    16 ms    18 ms  ae1-0.lon10.core-backbone.com [195.66.224.238]
14    35 ms    34 ms    34 ms  ae1-2053.prg10.core-backbone.com [81.95.15.118]
15    47 ms  154 ms    47 ms  core-backbone.superhosting.cz [80.255.15.78]
16    34 ms    35 ms    34 ms  sit-c65b-vl6.superhosting.cz [88.86.96.158]
17    44 ms    35 ms    34 ms  sit-c76a-vl818.maxprogress-2-sh.supernetwork.cz [88.86.97.194]
18    35 ms    34 ms    34 ms  rusfolder.com [78.108.186.86]

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xist
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Re: no access to rghost.ru - IWF or Putin ?

When i click on the link in my post above I encounter -

Although given the differing IP problem from requesting and resolving sources it's not usable anyway, accessible or not...
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Re: no access to rghost.ru - IWF or Putin ?

What does a trace look like from your location?
If I'm able to replicate a problem this side then I can have somebody take a look. Navigating the site is a bit tricky though because my Russian's a tad rusty Grin

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xist
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Re: no access to rghost.ru - IWF or Putin ?

Thank you for the assistance...
A trace returns a couple of extra steps over yours -
Quote
Tracing route to rusfolder.com [78.108.186.85]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
  1    3 ms    *        3 ms  192.168.0.1
  2    19 ms    *      18 ms  lo0-central10.ptn-ag02.plus.net [195.166.128.191
]
  3    18 ms    *      18 ms  link-a-central10.ptn-gw01.plus.net [212.159.2.13
2]
  4    18 ms    *      18 ms  xe-1-2-0.ptw-cr01.plus.net [212.159.0.112]
  5    18 ms    *      18 ms  ae2.ptw-cr02.plus.net [195.166.129.5]
  6    21 ms    *      34 ms  ae1.pcl-cr02.plus.net [195.166.129.3]
  7    17 ms    *      18 ms  po2.pcl-gw02.plus.net [195.166.129.43]
  8    19 ms    *      36 ms  tun0.pcl-gw01.plus.net [212.159.2.105]
  9    24 ms    *      17 ms  flowers2.servers.plus.net.uk [212.159.2.98]
10    20 ms    *      19 ms  195.99.126.96
11    *      20 ms    *    core4-te0-19-0-19.faraday.ukcore.bt.net [109.159
.249.27]
12    23 ms    *      22 ms  core2-Te0-0-0-2.ealing.ukcore.bt.net [213.121.19
3.70]
13    18 ms    *      19 ms  transit2-xe1-3-0.ealing.ukcore.bt.net [213.121.1
93.230]
14    21 ms    *      21 ms  213.137.183.96
15    20 ms    *      19 ms  ae1-0.lon10.core-backbone.com [195.66.224.238]
16    37 ms    *      36 ms  ae1-2053.prg10.core-backbone.com [81.95.15.118]
17    *      66 ms    54 ms  core-backbone.superhosting.cz [80.255.15.78]
18  814 ms  142 ms  129 ms  sit-c65b-vl6.superhosting.cz [88.86.96.158]
19    38 ms    *      38 ms  sit-c76a-vl818.maxprogress-2-sh.supernetwork.cz
[88.86.97.194]
20    36 ms    *      37 ms  rusfolder.com [78.108.186.85]
Trace complete.

Although as with that topic post I linked to above, if every query is going to get filtered then the IP mismatch renders it moot anyway...
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Re: no access to rghost.ru - IWF or Putin ?

I've gateway hopped and now my trace looks more akin to yours. I can still access the site though.
C:\Windows\System32>tracert rusfolder.com
Tracing route to rusfolder.com [78.108.186.85]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
  1    3 ms    2 ms    3 ms  home.gateway [192.168.1.254]
  2    16 ms    15 ms    23 ms  lo0-central10.ptn-ag04.plus.net [195.166.128.193]
  3    15 ms    14 ms    14 ms  link-b-central10.ptn-gw02.plus.net [212.159.2.142]
  4    14 ms    14 ms    17 ms  xe-8-2-0.ptw-cr02.plus.net [212.159.0.118]
  5    15 ms    15 ms    15 ms  ae1.pcl-cr02.plus.net [195.166.129.3]
  6    14 ms    14 ms    15 ms  po2.pcl-gw02.plus.net [195.166.129.43]
  7    15 ms    15 ms    14 ms  tun0.pcl-gw01.plus.net [212.159.2.105]
  8    15 ms    28 ms    15 ms  flowers2.servers.plus.net.uk [212.159.2.98]
  9    16 ms    18 ms    16 ms  195.99.126.96
10    15 ms    15 ms    16 ms  core3-te-0-0-0-18.faraday.ukcore.bt.net [109.159.249.41]
11    17 ms    19 ms    19 ms  213.121.193.26
12    16 ms    16 ms    16 ms  transit2-xe1-3-0.ealing.ukcore.bt.net [213.121.193.230]
13    17 ms    17 ms    16 ms  213.137.183.100
14    16 ms    15 ms    15 ms  ae1-0.lon10.core-backbone.com [195.66.224.238]
15    35 ms    33 ms    33 ms  ae1-2053.prg10.core-backbone.com [81.95.15.118]
16    32 ms    31 ms    32 ms  core-backbone.superhosting.cz [80.255.15.78]
17    33 ms    33 ms    33 ms  sit-c65b-vl6.superhosting.cz [88.86.96.158]
18    32 ms    44 ms    32 ms  sit-c76a-vl818.maxprogress-2-sh.supernetwork.cz [88.86.97.194]
19    33 ms    33 ms    32 ms  rusfolder.com [78.108.186.85]
Trace complete.

If you can provide some steps that would allow me to replicate the IP mismatch issue then that's probably enough for me to go on.

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Re: no access to rghost.ru - IWF or Putin ?

The IP mismatch is only an issue if I can access the site.....Since I can't actually access the site normally because of the IWF blocking filter/proxy I can only assume you'll encounter it if you try to access this file - http://rusfolder.com/43513500 (some game guides for the purpose on an example)
(Since it's opaque and in Russian....It's the left hand option, click the red button  there...pick an advertising option, wait 30 seconds or get an adfly redirect then enter the captcha code in the page that pops up....when you hit the download you get the IP address error...)
I realise how unhelpful and difficult this is since it's in Russian.... Undecided
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Re: no access to rghost.ru - IWF or Putin ?

Thanks, following your instructions, I'm presented with the message (kindly translated by Google):
[quote author="rusfolder.com"]message
Invalid link .
Possible link was received on a different computer .
To download the desired file, click on this link : http://rusfolder.net/43513500.
I've raised an internal problem to have somebody take a look and see if there's anything we can do (ref: 85690).

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Re: no access to rghost.ru - IWF or Putin ?

May not be relevant  or already known but the main files in the links are deleted?
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Re: no access to rghost.ru - IWF or Putin ?

Those were the files being discussed when this topic was started. @xist is reporting issues with a different site (rusfolder.com).
Not sure if the mods want to break it out into its own topic?

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Re: Re: no access to rghost.ru - IWF or Putin ?

mod:note
split topic for better visibility and clarity of the issue.

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Re: no access to rghost.ru - IWF or Putin ?

OK  looks like the usual "download here" tricks on these sites  where you just go round in circles chasing the download
which probably  contains a virus, keypress collector, ad distributor or worse, so that in the end you pay the 90 roubles with
little confidence of getting the file.
Just for the record I have no problem getting on to rusfolder.com  its foto section or even the Эротика  section Lips are sealed
I notice that rusfolder.com/43513500   becomes rusfolder.net/43513500 after the first run through but it does have the same home page.

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Re: PN's iwf filter and rusfolder? (was: no access to rghost.ru - IWF or Putin ?)

looks like you were composing your reply whilst I was splitting the topics.
joined it back into the thread you were replying to (I think!)

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