'Normal' evening SNRM drop/flat twisted pair RJ11 cable.
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Re: 'Normal' evening SNRM drop/flat twisted pair RJ11 cable.
18-11-2014 1:21 PM
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Are these CRT-initiated drops as a response to this thread (daylight hours are when I reckon not to be at risk of connection drops at the moment? :()
Re: 'Normal' evening SNRM drop/flat twisted pair RJ11 cable.
18-11-2014 1:24 PM
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We've not performed any testing on your line (there isn't actually a fault ticket open), so the drops shouldn't be caused by us.
Re: 'Normal' evening SNRM drop/flat twisted pair RJ11 cable.
18-11-2014 1:29 PM
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Re: 'Normal' evening SNRM drop/flat twisted pair RJ11 cable.
18-11-2014 1:47 PM
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Have you reported that street light yet?
Re: 'Normal' evening SNRM drop/flat twisted pair RJ11 cable.
18-11-2014 1:57 PM
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Some days is good days.............
Re: 'Normal' evening SNRM drop/flat twisted pair RJ11 cable.
21-11-2014 11:47 AM
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Decided to check for possible sources of interference using a MW radio tuned to around 600KHz :
Permanently lit street lamp : NIL (just hope my neighbours didn't spot me! :D)
Old multi-voltage output PSU used to power home weather station: NIL
Mobile phone charger: NIL
Electric shaver charger: NIL
Cordless phone/answering machine base station: NIL
PSU for old Netgear router: Slight humming
PSU for DAB radio/alarm clock: LOUD INTERFERENCE
New Hudl 2 charger: LOUD INTERFERENCE
TG582n router: TICKING, presumably from WiFI
TG582n PSU: LOUD INTERFERENCE.
The last is of most concern, partly because it's new, but also because it's on 24/7 and only a couple of feet away from the router..
In each case the interference was only picked up with the radio a couple of inches or less away from the device - does anyone have a view as to whether this constitutes a fault which is likely to be causing problems, or merely a characteristic of some modern lightweight PSU's which just has to be lived with?
Re: 'Normal' evening SNRM drop/flat twisted pair RJ11 cable.
21-11-2014 12:18 PM
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As long as it's not radiating from devices like the DAB radio and HUDL when you are further away, shouldn't be an issue.
Quote Permanently lit street lamp : NIL (just hope my neighbours didn't spot me!
That's always a good one, I have been known to be wandering up and down the road after dark in the past and stood by telephone/power poles with a radio emitting loud buzzing noises (who is that loony?)
Re: 'Normal' evening SNRM drop/flat twisted pair RJ11 cable.
21-11-2014 12:30 PM
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(Regarding holding up hissing small rectangular black objects up against street lamps, I did ponder whether it would look more suspicious at night rather than during daylight hours - chose the latter, and so far not seen any scary looking folk in white coats..... :-\)
Re: 'Normal' evening SNRM drop/flat twisted pair RJ11 cable.
21-11-2014 12:36 PM
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Re: 'Normal' evening SNRM drop/flat twisted pair RJ11 cable.
26-11-2014 9:26 AM
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Router stats as of now:
Uptime: 0 days, 0:58:26
DSL Type: ITU-T G.992.5
Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 1,217 / 8,242
Data Transferred (Sent/Received) [MB/MB]: 35.43 / 640.36
Output Power (Up/Down) [dBm]: 12.8 / 0.0
Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]: 16.8 / 37.0
SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]: 5.9 / 13.3
System Vendor ID (Local/Remote): TMMB / ----
Chipset Vendor ID (Local/Remote): BDCM / IFTN
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote): 44 / 0
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote): 5 / 0
Loss of Power (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Link (Remote): -
Error Seconds (Local/Remote): 180 / 0
FEC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 1,187
CRC Errors (Up/Down): 1 / 5
HEC Errors (Up/Down): 3 / 23
Quiet line test still silent, errors seemed to be very low during the day at 6dB, and not unreasonable during the evening, but the DLM clearly sees it differently.
Will change the router back to the old Netgear this morning, and the extension cable back to the old untwisted pair cable 24 hours later - I'll then have restored the exact arrangement which worked so reliably for years (with the margin tweaked from 3 to 5), although I won't of course be able to use my Wifi device. Both of my disconnections will be of the 'graceful' variety.
Does anyone have any idea how long the DLM is likely to take to respond favourably if these changes do actually rectify the problems I now have with my connection?
Re: 'Normal' evening SNRM drop/flat twisted pair RJ11 cable.
26-11-2014 9:48 AM
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Download and install RouterStatsLite.
Install it in C:\. I'll post some setup notes in a moment. But also login to your TG582n and have a look at the logs and post any entries that refer to xDSL.
Re: 'Normal' evening SNRM drop/flat twisted pair RJ11 cable.
26-11-2014 10:05 AM
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Info Nov 26 09:54:12 LOGIN User admin logged in on [HTTP] (from 192.168.1.64)
Info Nov 26 09:51:43 LOGIN User admin logged in on [HTTP] (from 192.168.1.64)
Info Nov 26 09:02:22 SNTP Synchronised to server: 212.159.6.10
Info Nov 26 09:00:36 LOGIN User admin logged in on [HTTP] (from 192.168.1.64)
Info Nov 26 08:32:11 LOGIN User admin logged in on [HTTP] (from 192.168.1.64)
Error Nov 26 08:23:12 FIREWALL icmp check (1 of 1): Protocol: ICMP Src ip: 123.205.159.146 Dst ip: 146.90.58.49 Type: Destination Unreachable Code: Port Unreacheable
Info Nov 26 08:13:16 LOGIN User admin logged in on TELNET (192.168.1.64)
Info Nov 26 08:12:55 LOGOUT User admin logged out on TELNET (192.168.1.64)
Info Nov 26 08:09:23 CONFIGURATION saved by TR69
Info Nov 26 08:08:38 FIREWALL event (1 of 1): modified rules
Info Nov 26 08:08:38 FIREWALL event (1 of 1): created rules
Warning Nov 26 08:08:38 PPP link up (Internet) [146.90.58.49
Info Nov 26 08:08:38 FIREWALL event (1 of 2): deleted rules
Info Nov 26 08:08:38 PPP CHAP Receive success (Internet)
Info Nov 26 08:08:38 PPP CHAP Receive challenge from rhost PTW-AG01 (Internet)
Info Nov 26 08:08:37 PPP CHAP Receive challenge from rhost bras-red9.sf (Internet)
Info Nov 26 08:08:34 xDSL linestate up (ITU-T G.992.5; downstream: 8242 kbit/s, upstream: 1217 kbit/s; output Power Down: 20.4 dBm, Up: 12.8 dBm; line Attenuation Down: 37.0 dB, Up: 16.8 dB; snr Margin Down: 12.1 dB, Up: 6.3 dB)
Warning Nov 26 08:08:18 PPP link down (Internet) [46.208.84.79]
Info Nov 26 08:08:08 xDSL linestate down
Info Nov 26 08:07:38 xDSL linestate down
Info Nov 26 08:07:20 FIREWALL event (1 of 1): modified rules
Info Nov 26 08:07:20 FIREWALL event (1 of 1): created rules
Info Nov 26 08:07:20 xDSL linestate down
Info Nov 26 08:02:22 SNTP Synchronised again to server: 212.159.6.9
Error Nov 26 07:41:10 FIREWALL icmp check (1 of 1): Protocol: ICMP Src ip: 115.201.38.195 Dst ip: 46.208.84.79 Type: Destination Unreachable Code: Port Unreacheable
Info Nov 26 07:02:22 SNTP Synchronised to server: 212.159.6.9
Error Nov 26 07:01:20 FIREWALL icmp check (1 of 1): Protocol: ICMP Src ip: 82.73.19.204 Dst ip: 46.208.84.79 Type: Destination Unreachable Code: Port Unreacheable
Error Nov 26 06:55:53 FIREWALL icmp check (1 of 1): Protocol: ICMP Src ip: 123.25.39.83 Dst ip: 46.208.84.79 Type: Destination Unreachable Code: Port Unreacheable
Error Nov 26 06:43:43 FIREWALL icmp check (1 of 1): Protocol: ICMP Src ip: 125.72.251.244 Dst ip: 46.208.84.79 Type: Destination Unreachable Code: Port Unreacheable
Error Nov 26 06:37:18 FIREWALL icmp check (1 of 1): Protocol: ICMP Src ip: 182.129.227.240 Dst ip: 46.208.84.79 Type: Destination Unreachable Code: Port Unreacheable
Error Nov 26 06:33:44 FIREWALL icmp check (1 of 2): Protocol: ICMP Src ip: 91.192.152.20 Dst ip: 46.208.84.79 Type: Time Exceeded Code: Time to Live exceeded in Transit
Error Nov 26 06:04:11 FIREWALL icmp check (1 of 1): Protocol: ICMP Src ip: 176.123.216.43 Dst ip: 46.208.84.79 Type: Destination Unreachable Code: Port Unreacheable
Re: 'Normal' evening SNRM drop/flat twisted pair RJ11 cable.
26-11-2014 10:17 AM
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The web based log doesn't give as much data as can be got via Telnet, I'll post some info on that next then.
Re: 'Normal' evening SNRM drop/flat twisted pair RJ11 cable.
26-11-2014 10:20 AM
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Re: 'Normal' evening SNRM drop/flat twisted pair RJ11 cable.
26-11-2014 10:41 AM
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If you are familiar with moving around directories in a command prompt, go wherever is easiest/suitable for you, otherwise save the stuff in root, it's is easier to get at and not so much of an issue there. You can get to C:\ in My Computer or Windows Explorer easily to open the file afterwards.
Use the command...... cd C:\ to go there.
Use the following telnet command...... telnet -f events##.log 192.168.1.254
This copies the telnet output direct to the file events##.log
You can substitute the ## for a number, I usually do it after the file has been completed by doing a rename. I can then use the same command everytime which I have saved in a text file along with some other commands, I just do a copy and paste of the one I want.
Login using your default username and password (or customised one if you have created one)
At the prompt enter..... syslog msgbuf show hist=enabled
At the prompt type... exit
Depending on the timeouts, you may only have a short time before the telnet connection times out. If so, just log in again.
You can open the log file in a text file reader (Notepad) and just copy and paste into a post.
If you are struggling with any of the above, ask away.
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