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Re: Noise Margin
31-01-2013 4:55 PM
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There's a brown wire which has either been disconnected or worked its way loose - do I need to connect it?
Otherwise, connections are as follows:
2-blue
3-green
5-orange
Re: Noise Margin
31-01-2013 5:02 PM
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By the way I assume the correct standard cable going to the upstairs socket probably goes behind that vertical trim?
Re: Noise Margin
31-01-2013 5:07 PM
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edit: no, the upstairs wiring does not go behind the vertical trim. It's one of the cables protruding from the right hand side of the Master socket. It may look like a single cable from the photo but there are two there. The cable goes down the wall and under the stair carpet, where it then goes up (under the stairs) to the upstairs room where the socket is. It's an old Victorian house so everything was put in after it was built!
Re: Noise Margin
31-01-2013 5:14 PM
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2 - blue (with white dashes)
3 - red (with white dashes)
5 - white (with blue dashes)
Re: Noise Margin
31-01-2013 5:17 PM
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Re: Noise Margin
31-01-2013 5:26 PM
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Modern CW1308 is a bit smaller and neater. These CableClips and a Disposable IDC tool to make the connections should see you right. The firm in the links is a reputable company and the P&P is quite reasonable compared to some (no,I don't work for them!). You need to be careful where you buy the cable as there is fake CW1308 about.
You may find a local Telecom/Hardware shop that has the items, but I doubt they will equal the price and you need to be sure they got their cable from a reputable source - not any old supplier off an auction site
Re: Noise Margin
31-01-2013 5:29 PM
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edit: if so, do I then disconnect the wiring between the downstairs one and the Master socket?
Re: Noise Margin
31-01-2013 5:36 PM
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The new cable mentioned in my previous post is a 2-pair cable, all that's required for an ADSL installation. The newer cable you have going upstairs is 3-pair and has unused wires. When you do the wiring your need to remove the wires from Terminal 3 by gently pulling them vertically out of the terminal. The only wires that will be connected are the Blue+white trace to terminal 2 and the White+blue trace to terminal 5 at all of the sockets.
Re: Noise Margin
31-01-2013 6:20 PM
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If I go ahead and re-cable then would AndyH's suggestion of putting in a new NTE5 be advisable while I'm messing about with the wiring anyway? If so that would mean no more ADSL filters needed I guess? Or would it provide no practical benefit?
Re: Noise Margin
31-01-2013 6:31 PM
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If you want to run a modem/router at an extension in that situation you have to have a separate cable pair from unfiltered terminals on the front plate to the dedicated extension (not all filtered front plates have them).
In your case with just 2 sockets, it's no advantage whatsoever and in any event you only need the 2 filters you have already got.
Re: Noise Margin
31-01-2013 6:51 PM
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On another note, I'm happy to take the plunge and redo the wiring but the results of tests I just carried out indicate that I still have a problem elsewhere.
If I'm getting this while connected to the test socket then doesn't that indicate I may have a problem on BT's side of things?
I'm also getting packet loss showing up on my TBB graph, which is odd as I haven't had that for several days (i.e. pre-test socket). Another thread seemed to indicate this was cause to raise a line fault. Is that the case here?
edit: in case it's not obvious, master socket is no longer valid which is why it's now showing up as constant packet loss. I'm referring to the bit before that
edit: I think it's because I was on the dreaded pcl gateway. Just rebooted and I'm on ptn - will see how that goes
Re: Noise Margin
01-02-2013 3:57 PM
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Question: now that things have settled a bit (i.e. got my Skype back :)) and I seem to be on a stable gateway, would it be worth switching interleaving off again? I think Jelv mentioned above that with me being so close to the exchange it shouldn't really be necessary. I'm hoping that might help the latency on the gaming side
Re: Noise Margin
01-02-2013 10:35 PM
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I wouldn't worry too much about that awful pingtest yesterday evening, as it was at a peak time and some of the problem may have been Ping Server related. If you get repeated results like that, especially at non-peak times then that would be something that needs looking at.
Useful checks are to run ping ntp.plus.net from a cmd prompt (Plusnet's DNS servers) so staying within the Plusnet Network, and if this shows repeated problems do a tracert ntp.plus.net to see if it identifies a particular Plusnet router.
If you could post another RouterStats summery page (as per reply #32 - but without your current IP address!) and assuming the errors look Ok then you could respond to your open fault ticket and ask for Interleaving to be turned off.
Re: Noise Margin
02-02-2013 8:39 AM
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The thing about the pings is that I got much worse ones when connected to gateways other than at Telehouse North. Don't understand why. Also, for reasons I again don't understand, I was suffering much more packet loss with different gateways. Oddly enough, according to TBB I suffered less (i.e. zero) packet loss when connected to the Master socket than I do now (very small amounts) connected to the Test socket, even though I am a similar gateway (ptn) than before. Despite this, however, the connection "feels" better as I'm finally getting my Skype to work and gaming also seems to run smoother (scratches head). Witchcraft, I tell you.
Attached the stats. Couldn't get rid if the displayed IP address even when unchecking boxes in the settings so resorted to trusty Paint program
Re: Noise Margin
02-02-2013 3:44 PM
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I had to put put my glasses on and get a magnifying glass out to look at the error figures
I should respond to your ticket stating that you discovered you have some wiring issues and are going to remain in the test socket until they are resolved and that as the line now appears to be pretty much error free will they please turn Interleaving Off (not Auto - Off).
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