cancel
Showing results for 
Search instead for 
Did you mean: 

My exchange has emerged from the stone age!

Community Veteran
Posts: 26,529
Thanks: 766
Fixes: 9
Registered: 10-04-2007

My exchange has emerged from the stone age!

I thought my exchange was forever destined to be firmly stuck in the last century: Market 1, ADSL Max only - no LLU, no date for 21CN (and hence no FTTC or FTTP).
The good news: Today I found out that an LLU operator enabled our exchange on 01/09/2010
The bad news: It's TalkTalk!
jelv (a.k.a Spoon Whittler)
   Why I have left Plusnet (warning: long post!)   
Broadband: Andrews & Arnold Home::1 (FTTC 80/20)
Line rental: Pulse 8 Home Line Rental (£13/month)
Mobile: iD mobile (£4/month)
17 REPLIES
jojopillo
Grafter
Posts: 9,786
Registered: 16-06-2010

Re: My exchange has emerged from the stone age!

Only another 3 OLO's and you'll be market 3 Smiley
Steve
Seasoned Pro
Posts: 6,706
Thanks: 254
Registered: 13-07-2009

Re: My exchange has emerged from the stone age!

What do you mean JoJo Only another 3 OLO'S? Tell me more please as Id like to be Market 3.
If life gives you lemons, make lemonade.
jojopillo
Grafter
Posts: 9,786
Registered: 16-06-2010

Re: My exchange has emerged from the stone age!

Hi Steve M,
Actually I think it's another 2 OLO's (Other Licensed Operators)
There have to be 4 providers of broadband (BT included) at the exchange for it to be considered market 3
You can see more info about it here
Jojo Smiley
Steve
Seasoned Pro
Posts: 6,706
Thanks: 254
Registered: 13-07-2009

Re: My exchange has emerged from the stone age!

Oh cool I never knew this, So I have BT and TalkTalk LLU And AOL so shouldnt I be market 3 now? Thanks for the link will go and have a read.
Edit Ok I have 3 so one more? woohooo!!!
If life gives you lemons, make lemonade.
smiffyb36
Grafter
Posts: 81
Registered: 11-05-2010

Re: My exchange has emerged from the stone age!

lol Read it again Steve, she said 4 mate Grin
Steve
Seasoned Pro
Posts: 6,706
Thanks: 254
Registered: 13-07-2009

Re: My exchange has emerged from the stone age!

Yeah I did edit Grin  Cry
If life gives you lemons, make lemonade.
Community Veteran
Posts: 5,472
Thanks: 291
Fixes: 4
Registered: 11-08-2007

Re: My exchange has emerged from the stone age!

Is there anywhere on the internet that details when BT anticipate upgrading the remaining telephone exchanges to 21CN ?
I have been checking "samknows.com" for years, only to see a date set for my local exchange and then for it to be removed - months after the date passed !    Cry
At the moment I have no idea whether the 21CN will appear in months, or years, or never !  Undecided
jojopillo
Grafter
Posts: 9,786
Registered: 16-06-2010

Re: My exchange has emerged from the stone age!

Hi purleigh,
The best I can do after talking to our 21CN master is this list and apparently if it's not on there then there's no date.
Jojo Smiley
Community Veteran
Posts: 5,472
Thanks: 291
Fixes: 4
Registered: 11-08-2007

Re: My exchange has emerged from the stone age!

Thanks Jojo,
As my exchange "EAPUR" does not appear on that list either, does your "21CN master" have an idea of when BT expect to have the majority of exchanges working on 21CN ?
Knowing that piece of information would give a "worst case" guesstimate of time scale for smaller Market-1 exchanges !,
although I don't know whether an exchange that serves "940 premises" is small or not really ?
Community Gaffer
Community Gaffer
Posts: 12,996
Thanks: 771
Fixes: 70
Registered: 04-04-2007

Re: My exchange has emerged from the stone age!

AFAIK there's only about 50% of exchanges 21cn enabled, either that or it's 50% of the uk population (can't remember which).
My exchange annoys me. There's cable, every LLU operator under the sun but no 21cn. Very annoying considering the fact that I get no errors on my line and have a 9db downstream attenuation! Crazy

Bob Pullen
Plusnet Products Team
If I've been helpful then please give thanks ⤵

itsme
Grafter
Posts: 5,924
Thanks: 1
Registered: 07-04-2007

Re: My exchange has emerged from the stone age!

What's stopping you switching to a LLU supplier?
Community Gaffer
Community Gaffer
Posts: 12,996
Thanks: 771
Fixes: 70
Registered: 04-04-2007

Re: My exchange has emerged from the stone age!

Four reasons mainly (in no particular order).
1. Cost.
2. It helps to have a remote connection to an external Plusnet line from work for testing etc. I also get asked quite frequently to test kit/new apps etc. that would be rendered pointless if I was using another ISP.
3. I can fix my own problems.
4. I don't need 20mbps. Granted it would be nice, but even for a relatively heavy downloader (which i am) 7mbps already does what i need it to without making me impatient.

Bob Pullen
Plusnet Products Team
If I've been helpful then please give thanks ⤵

itsme
Grafter
Posts: 5,924
Thanks: 1
Registered: 07-04-2007

Re: My exchange has emerged from the stone age!

So why does your exchange annoy you  Grin
I'm annoyed with my exchange as I live closer to another. I'm on WBC and only get 2.5mbps but if I live 100 yards up the road I be on another exchange and will get 10-15mbps. That's annoying.
Plusnet Staff
Plusnet Staff
Posts: 12,169
Thanks: 18
Fixes: 1
Registered: 04-04-2007

Re: My exchange has emerged from the stone age!

Bob, about 50% of the population is covered by 21CN but it's less than 20% of the exchanges. FTTC is now at 5% of the population but less than 2% of the exchanges.