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Latency on BNGs vs older gateways

AndyH
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Re: Latency on BNGs vs older gateways

@ purleigh - I see what you're saying Wink
I find the BNGs give me slightly better throughput but the latency is higher.
I have only been trying low response sites like bbc.co.uk, so I will try some others to see if they are comparable with different gateways.
I am a little baffled about how George gets 4ms on a BNG. We're on the same product on the same exchange - so we should be able to get the same, I would have thought.
goldenfibre
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Re: Latency on BNGs vs older gateways

George 4ms is very lucky indeed! Very mystery & odd!
Ask George to do another ping test here!
@ AndyH I don't understand why old gateway lower throughput than the new gateway?
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Re: Latency on BNGs vs older gateways

Quote from: AndyH
@ purleigh - I see what you're saying Wink
I find the BNGs give me slightly better throughput but the latency is higher.

I don't think I would notice a gateway throughput difference on my 6.7Mbps ADSL1 20CN line  Cry
I'll stick with the lower latency PTN  Wink
Kelly
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Re: Latency on BNGs vs older gateways

Quote from: AndyH
I am a little baffled about how George gets 4ms on a BNG. We're on the same product on the same exchange - so we should be able to get the same, I would have thought.

Share your postcodes?  It could well be a difference in backhaul back to the datacentres.
Kelly Dorset
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Re: Latency on BNGs vs older gateways

Andy H , Yes latency is higher on the BNG gateways .
as i have said here before I regularly swap gateways to find one where i get a good game connection  Wink  which also seams to depend on time of day  Embarrassed
i sometimes find a gateway which for me plays well for several days  Wink but then for some reason it deteriorates  so i just hop to the next  gateway 
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AndyH
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@ Kelly
I'm MK15 and George is MK5 something (I think). We only live a few miles apart.
As I said to Paul ages ago, this is not a problem for me but it's worth looking at in case it affects people. I assume it's the way the traffic comes through the BT Wholesale network.
sotonskyblue
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Re: Latency on BNGs vs older gateways

Pinging bbc.co.uk [212.58.244.20] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 212.58.244.20: bytes=32 time=15ms TTL=56
Reply from 212.58.244.20: bytes=32 time=14ms TTL=56
Reply from 212.58.244.20: bytes=32 time=13ms TTL=56
Reply from 212.58.244.20: bytes=32 time=14ms TTL=56
Ping statistics for 212.58.244.20:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 13ms, Maximum = 15ms, Average = 14ms

You are currently connected to gateway ptw-bng01.
This is located in Telehouse West.

Taken at 20:10 via FTTC (40MB)
xreyuk
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Re: Latency on BNGs vs older gateways

I was seeing higher latency on the BNGs and was actually gateway hopping to AG gateways. However, recently, I've been hopping to ptw-bng01 as it's giving the best pings (regularly by a couple of ms).
In general though, all the other BNG gateways are 1-2ms higher for me. As you say, not much, but higher.
goldenfibre
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Re: Latency on BNGs vs older gateways

From 11ms to 1ms ping now
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@Kelly
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@goldenfibre
current ping is
    Packets: Sent = 100, Received = 100, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 4ms, Maximum = 5ms, Average = 4ms

@AndyH
When I had my 4 month long speed issues, you were not affected in the slightest. During that time I had my line moved between VLANs and the line card in the exchange replaced. So yes same product (FTTP) but not necessarily the same configurations.

George
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how to do 100 sent, 100 received cmd test?
Edited: I found it now... cmd /k ping bbc.co.uk /n 100
goldenfibre
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Ping statistics for 212.58.244.20:
   Packets: Sent = 100, Received = 100, Lost = 0 (0% loss)
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
   Minimum = 11ms, Maximum = 12ms, Average = 11ms
@ George did u test it via bbc.co.uk?
AndyH
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Re: Latency on BNGs vs older gateways

But can you compare the ping times on a BNG vs a non-BNG?
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Who? Do u mean me or George?
AndyH
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You - George we know has low pings on ptw-bng01
I'm on the same gateway as George now, but my ping times are high (4-5ms to bbc.co.uk). I'm assuming that this is all down to the BT routing.